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Granted, this is hardly accurate/scientific - try out a solid hour walk on a treadmill. A lot of steps for a pittance of calories [based on whatever hand-wavy

Granted, this is hardly accurate/scientific - try out a solid hour walk on a treadmill. A lot of steps for a pittance of calories [based on whatever hand-wavy math it's doing, admittedly]. We're frustratingly efficient. I forget exactly, it was something dumb like half a candy bar. I've heard people say "you won't outrun your mouth", in this context... and others. It's true. I've managed to drop my body weight ~half, it happened by controlling what I ate; not how I exercised. When I stopped skateboarding due to an injury, I ballooned. I stopped eating like that over a decade later, I shrunk. In that time I also got older, moved, and went to college. It's worth considering what's easier/more likely/realistic to maintain

donw 2y ago
The saying in weightlifting / bodybuilding circles is "you can't out-train a bad diet".
bart_spoon 2y ago
I think that pittance of calories is only the surface benefit. Consistent activity keeps your metabolism much higher, meaning you burn more calories throughout the day even when you aren’t moving.
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  Absolutely, very good to keep things burning. It's also good to not need to burn them. We can be remarkably efficient with the right conditioning. I eat once/day and would do less if not for literally boredom. I do next to nothing physically all day. I'm fine, I just don't need a lot of upkeep. I have all the metabolism I need! My health may be suffering for it, but I enjoy getting back a solid chunk of the day. Eating is such a time sink... now it's exercise too?! I know it's nuts, I have an unhealthy relationship with food lol. Even the social side, it's hard to explain but people get mad when you don't want to eat with them.
spudlyo 2y ago
Put a morbidly obese person on a treadmill for a solid hour, and they'll likely spend a fair amount of time in zone 4-5. Walking is excellent exercise for some, not so great for others. Generalizing here is pointless.
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  > Generalizing here is pointless Comment sections summarized excellently in four words. None of this was presented as universal truth, so I'd appreciate some leniency like I'm giving to you My post provided a personal anecdote. What does yours have? Criticism we'd all be better off without. It's clear the effect exercise had on me, it was keeping my eating in check. I can do that too at intake. I didn't even need a miracle drug. I just stopped eating so much, but here I go slipping into moral judgement. I'm trying to help people, not reinforce a lifestyle.
  - spudlyo 2y ago
    Apologies for my rudeness, I'm afraid I let a pet peeve get the better of me. I often read health and wellness content on Reddit. There you'll find highly ranked comments expressing opinions such as "you should never eat below 1200 calories", or "walking on a treadmill burns a pittance of calories". In my opinion, these sorts of observations are uninteresting at best, and misinformative at worst. Hacker News, as you may well know from your nearly three year comment history here, is a place where detail and nuance are roundly appreciated.

donw 2y ago

The saying in weightlifting / bodybuilding circles is "you can't out-train a bad diet".

bart_spoon 2y ago

I think that pittance of calories is only the surface benefit. Consistent activity keeps your metabolism much higher, meaning you burn more calories throughout the day even when you aren’t moving.

bravetraveler 2y ago
Absolutely, very good to keep things burning. It's also good to not need to burn them. We can be remarkably efficient with the right conditioning. I eat once/day and would do less if not for literally boredom. I do next to nothing physically all day. I'm fine, I just don't need a lot of upkeep. I have all the metabolism I need! My health may be suffering for it, but I enjoy getting back a solid chunk of the day. Eating is such a time sink... now it's exercise too?! I know it's nuts, I have an unhealthy relationship with food lol. Even the social side, it's hard to explain but people get mad when you don't want to eat with them.

spudlyo 2y ago

Put a morbidly obese person on a treadmill for a solid hour, and they'll likely spend a fair amount of time in zone 4-5. Walking is excellent exercise for some, not so great for others. Generalizing here is pointless.

bravetraveler 2y ago
> Generalizing here is pointless Comment sections summarized excellently in four words. None of this was presented as universal truth, so I'd appreciate some leniency like I'm giving to you My post provided a personal anecdote. What does yours have? Criticism we'd all be better off without. It's clear the effect exercise had on me, it was keeping my eating in check. I can do that too at intake. I didn't even need a miracle drug. I just stopped eating so much, but here I go slipping into moral judgement. I'm trying to help people, not reinforce a lifestyle.
- spudlyo 2y ago
  Apologies for my rudeness, I'm afraid I let a pet peeve get the better of me. I often read health and wellness content on Reddit. There you'll find highly ranked comments expressing opinions such as "you should never eat below 1200 calories", or "walking on a treadmill burns a pittance of calories". In my opinion, these sorts of observations are uninteresting at best, and misinformative at worst. Hacker News, as you may well know from your nearly three year comment history here, is a place where detail and nuance are roundly appreciated.