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No, it is not plausible that he didn't. This is the sort of thing that CEOs are very involved in the details of. If an overeager lawyer can add a lifetime non-d

No, it is not plausible that he didn't. This is the sort of thing that CEOs are very involved in the details of. If an overeager lawyer can add a lifetime non-disparagement clause to the equity plan without the CEO even noticing then you have some very big problems. This isn't some routine HR stuff.

bamboozled 2y ago
He seems to defer to the “I didn’t know” excuse far too often for my liking.
- ethbr1 2y ago
  Hard to blame someone for unknown unknowns.
lolinder 2y ago
> can add a lifetime non-disparagement clause to the equity plan I thought we were talking about exit docs, not clauses in the equity program. Do we have any reason to believe that the equity program itself contained language to this effect? The Vox article only talks about the NDA employees sign on the way out, it's only random internet comments that I've seen speculating about the contents of the equity program.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  I don’t see how there wouldn’t be a relationship with the exit doc , if part of the NDA is that you lose your equity for insulting the company. He knew about this. There’s no way he only knew about the good bits.
badlucklottery 2y ago
> If an overeager lawyer can add a lifetime non-disparagement clause to the equity plan without the CEO even noticing then you have some very big problems Yeah, it's one of those "are you an asshole or just incompetent?" PR moments. Altman seems to have chosen "incompetent" but neither is a great look for a CEO.
orionsbelt 2y ago
I can assure you, you are wrong. Sam is very busy running a huge company. It is not surprising, or outside the norm, that he is not reviewing exit documents.
- drpossum 2y ago
  Do you have anything to back up that "assurance" or are you just baselessly defending random companies' inner workings?
  - orionsbelt 2y ago
    Directly working on this stuff with many many companies of different sizes. I know nothing about OpenAI or Sam in particular — perhaps he is a particular involved CEO and was aware — but I can tell you definitely having a CEO of a company this size paying more attention to the business than this type of stuff is extremely normal.

bamboozled 2y ago

He seems to defer to the “I didn’t know” excuse far too often for my liking.

ethbr1 2y ago
Hard to blame someone for unknown unknowns.

lolinder 2y ago

> can add a lifetime non-disparagement clause to the equity plan I thought we were talking about exit docs, not clauses in the equity program. Do we have any reason to believe that the equity program itself contained language to this effect? The Vox article only talks about the NDA employees sign on the way out, it's only random internet comments that I've seen speculating about the contents of the equity program.

bamboozled 2y ago
I don’t see how there wouldn’t be a relationship with the exit doc , if part of the NDA is that you lose your equity for insulting the company. He knew about this. There’s no way he only knew about the good bits.

badlucklottery 2y ago

> If an overeager lawyer can add a lifetime non-disparagement clause to the equity plan without the CEO even noticing then you have some very big problems Yeah, it's one of those "are you an asshole or just incompetent?" PR moments. Altman seems to have chosen "incompetent" but neither is a great look for a CEO.

orionsbelt 2y ago

I can assure you, you are wrong. Sam is very busy running a huge company. It is not surprising, or outside the norm, that he is not reviewing exit documents.

drpossum 2y ago
Do you have anything to back up that "assurance" or are you just baselessly defending random companies' inner workings?
- orionsbelt 2y ago
  Directly working on this stuff with many many companies of different sizes. I know nothing about OpenAI or Sam in particular — perhaps he is a particular involved CEO and was aware — but I can tell you definitely having a CEO of a company this size paying more attention to the business than this type of stuff is extremely normal.