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What a strange article, but I guess that's to be expected given that the two participants are both female. Not to dismiss the point that improved, pain-free and

What a strange article, but I guess that's to be expected given that the two participants are both female. Not to dismiss the point that improved, pain-free and easy contraception for women would be of huge benefit, of course I'm fully in support of that. But there seems to be very little or no mention of the benefits sexual freedom for men - the ability to say "I don't want to be a father, I don't want to risk being on the hook for child support right now" without the risk of failure associated with condoms, or invasive surgery, or abstaining from sexual intimacy completely. Women at least have that choice via the contraceptive pill, and here we are talking about men _potentially_ having chemical choices along the same lines "within the next two decades". The conversation has to be turned around once again in favour of women, rather than discuss the potential benefits of men being able to take easy, non-surgical, reversible contraception for not only their own sexual freedom, and mental well being, but the benefits of introducing less unwanted children into the world as well. It really appears that to some sectors of society, the thought of levelling the playing field in terms of contraception for men really seems like anathema.

rekabis 2y ago
> But there seems to be very little or no mention of the benefits sexual freedom for men - the ability to say "I don't want to be a father, I don't want to risk being on the hook for child support right now" This is ideologically heretical, in the same way that paper abortions are ideologically heretical. As I have been told straight to my face, “Men should not ever have this kind of freedom, as it oppresses women and is literal misogyny.” I am paraphrasing - in that second sentence - what several feminists once told me (about two decades ago) during a discussion on birth control. And from what I have seen since then, this is an extremely popular sentiment among feminists. To experience this yourself, just bring up any positive support for paper abortions for men - which mostly equalizes abortion rights between the genders in places where women can freely abort - and enjoy the anti-male gender bigotry and vitriolic hate being spewed at you.
- nineteen999 2y ago
  That's very interesting, I'd never heard of the term "paper abortion" before, thank you for sharing. I don't know or hang around any radical feminists as it's not a good use of my time and energy, but thank you for having those conversations with them so that I don't have to.

rekabis 2y ago

> But there seems to be very little or no mention of the benefits sexual freedom for men - the ability to say "I don't want to be a father, I don't want to risk being on the hook for child support right now" This is ideologically heretical, in the same way that paper abortions are ideologically heretical. As I have been told straight to my face, “Men should not ever have this kind of freedom, as it oppresses women and is literal misogyny.” I am paraphrasing - in that second sentence - what several feminists once told me (about two decades ago) during a discussion on birth control. And from what I have seen since then, this is an extremely popular sentiment among feminists. To experience this yourself, just bring up any positive support for paper abortions for men - which mostly equalizes abortion rights between the genders in places where women can freely abort - and enjoy the anti-male gender bigotry and vitriolic hate being spewed at you.

nineteen999 2y ago
That's very interesting, I'd never heard of the term "paper abortion" before, thank you for sharing. I don't know or hang around any radical feminists as it's not a good use of my time and energy, but thank you for having those conversations with them so that I don't have to.