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60hz :( There's no going back once you're used to high refresh rates. Especially with a monitor like this which you might want to use in either orientation, 60h

60hz :( There's no going back once you're used to high refresh rates. Especially with a monitor like this which you might want to use in either orientation, 60hz panels are prone to jelly scrolling* when rotated 90 degrees from their native upright position due to the way that LCDs scan the image out line-by-line. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKb_khoFzw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKb_khoFzw

karmakaze 2y ago
It's surprising what a higher refresh let's you do. I noticed I was scrolling through output and logs much faster because I wasn't afraid of missing what I'm looking for. The opposite is pair programming remotely having to go extra slow.
- nosefurhairdo 2y ago
  For pair programming I recommend VSCode Live Share extension. So much better than screen share and dictating code changes.
slashtom 2y ago
Depends, I have the 32 inch 6k dell and the lg ergo, both are 60hz and have no issues. Mind you, I specifically use these two monitors for work whereas I do have a 240hz 4k Oled connected to my gaming pc next to it. The initial 60hz feel is jarring but you quickly get used to it. At least that's the case for me.
- snapplebobapple 2y ago
  To me it feels more like a sliding scale on a monitor (30 hz sucks 60 hz is usable, 120 hz is awesome and beyond that I notice nothing but I also don't game) I have a dual 43" 4k setup at 60 hz right now for work, once those age out in a few years I will definitely be trying for 120 hz. The smaller the screen the higher the hz is that feels like it sucks.
ulrischa 2y ago
What can you recommend?
- jsheard 2y ago
  4K 27-32" monitors at 144hz or better are a commodity at this point, just get whatever is currently cheapest and has RTINGS seal of approval. LGs are generally a safe choice. If you are a Mac user then you have to compromise though, 4K at those sizes isn't dense enough to meet Apples ~220dpi Retina standard, and the monitors that do meet that standard are all limited to 60hz (and hideously expensive). You either have to deal with Apples janky fractional DPI scaling, or put up with 60hz for now.
  - microtonal 2y ago
    Fully agree with the last part. If you are a Mac user, just get an Apple Studio Display. It's Retina, the integration with macOS is top-notch, and the speakers are pretty good. Initially the camera was not great (as pointed out by early reviews), but subsequent firmware updates have made it much better. Oh and it actually gets regular firmware updates and fixes -- it runs on Apple Silicon and uses a stripped-down iOS.
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    - jsheard 2y ago
      It is a nice monitor... but I would certainly hope so for what it costs. $1600+ for a non-HDR LCD monitor is pretty eye-watering when OLED monitors are arriving at <$1200 now. If you need Retina then you don't have much of a choice though, I know.
  - angoragoats 2y ago
    I am probably a bigger Apple critic than most, but I genuinely don’t understand the commonly stated sentiment that Apple is bad at fractional scaling. I’ve been running 27” 4K monitors at “looks like 1440p” scaling on my MBPs for years, and I literally cannot tell the difference in quality between the built in display and my monitors. Is there some particular app or use case where it’s more noticeable?
microtonal 2y ago
I don't like < 120Hz on a phone screen, but I don't mind as much on a computer. I think touch interaction makes lower refresh rates unnatural. On a computer screen I am much more annoyed if the density is less than 200 PPI, since the fonts, etc. become jagged. Ideally I'd have both (5k 27" 144Hz or 6k 32" 144Hz), but such a screen from a reputable brand seems to be a unicorn. Then I prefer higher PPI over higher refresh rate.

karmakaze 2y ago

It's surprising what a higher refresh let's you do. I noticed I was scrolling through output and logs much faster because I wasn't afraid of missing what I'm looking for. The opposite is pair programming remotely having to go extra slow.

nosefurhairdo 2y ago
For pair programming I recommend VSCode Live Share extension. So much better than screen share and dictating code changes.

slashtom 2y ago

Depends, I have the 32 inch 6k dell and the lg ergo, both are 60hz and have no issues. Mind you, I specifically use these two monitors for work whereas I do have a 240hz 4k Oled connected to my gaming pc next to it. The initial 60hz feel is jarring but you quickly get used to it. At least that's the case for me.

snapplebobapple 2y ago
To me it feels more like a sliding scale on a monitor (30 hz sucks 60 hz is usable, 120 hz is awesome and beyond that I notice nothing but I also don't game) I have a dual 43" 4k setup at 60 hz right now for work, once those age out in a few years I will definitely be trying for 120 hz. The smaller the screen the higher the hz is that feels like it sucks.

ulrischa 2y ago

What can you recommend?

jsheard 2y ago
4K 27-32" monitors at 144hz or better are a commodity at this point, just get whatever is currently cheapest and has RTINGS seal of approval. LGs are generally a safe choice. If you are a Mac user then you have to compromise though, 4K at those sizes isn't dense enough to meet Apples ~220dpi Retina standard, and the monitors that do meet that standard are all limited to 60hz (and hideously expensive). You either have to deal with Apples janky fractional DPI scaling, or put up with 60hz for now.
- microtonal 2y ago
  Fully agree with the last part. If you are a Mac user, just get an Apple Studio Display. It's Retina, the integration with macOS is top-notch, and the speakers are pretty good. Initially the camera was not great (as pointed out by early reviews), but subsequent firmware updates have made it much better. Oh and it actually gets regular firmware updates and fixes -- it runs on Apple Silicon and uses a stripped-down iOS.
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  - jsheard 2y ago
    It is a nice monitor... but I would certainly hope so for what it costs. $1600+ for a non-HDR LCD monitor is pretty eye-watering when OLED monitors are arriving at <$1200 now. If you need Retina then you don't have much of a choice though, I know.
- angoragoats 2y ago
  I am probably a bigger Apple critic than most, but I genuinely don’t understand the commonly stated sentiment that Apple is bad at fractional scaling. I’ve been running 27” 4K monitors at “looks like 1440p” scaling on my MBPs for years, and I literally cannot tell the difference in quality between the built in display and my monitors. Is there some particular app or use case where it’s more noticeable?

microtonal 2y ago

I don't like < 120Hz on a phone screen, but I don't mind as much on a computer. I think touch interaction makes lower refresh rates unnatural. On a computer screen I am much more annoyed if the density is less than 200 PPI, since the fonts, etc. become jagged. Ideally I'd have both (5k 27" 144Hz or 6k 32" 144Hz), but such a screen from a reputable brand seems to be a unicorn. Then I prefer higher PPI over higher refresh rate.