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If the deep fake is of a real person, there is still reputation damage to the person featured. That said, you're touching on something important. These people

If the deep fake is of a real person, there is still reputation damage to the person featured. That said, you're touching on something important. These people appear to be incurable, and it's about time we started talking about giving them some kind of outlet that mitigates the harm they might cause under the current regime of simply telling them they just have to restrain themselves. I don't know what the right answer is: VR? Sex dolls? Anything that will reduce the number of attempted incidents against actual children should be considered.

ht85 2y ago
> VR? Sex dolls? Until now, VR child porn and child sized sex dolls were not on my mind when I thought of state sponsored healthcare. I say this half jokingly, I am not really sure how I would want society to deal with that kind of mental illness. It's hard to have a nuanced perception of it, yet without nuance we are no better than the people we judge...
eastbound 2y ago
Especially since we’ve witnessed, after 20 years of porn on the internet, that far from resulting in youths being unfathomably promiscuous, it rather results in a youths not going out enough.
soulofmischief 2y ago
> If the deep fake is of a real person, there is still reputation damage to the person featured. Only if the material was distributed by the individual. If the material remained on the individual's computer, I just don't understand how someone can argue that harm has occurred. Like, maybe there is an argument that some non-zero level of "harm" occurred due to perceived normalization of untoward behavior, but is this worth allowing a slippery slope with no immediately apparent bottom? Where will our benevolent government draw the line on what kind of thought crime is permissible? It's getting really tiring that the only people routinely coming to bat over these kinds of issues are cybersecurity professionals and privacy advocates; the average person still seems to buy into this propaganda and it harms everyone in the end, as our collective ability to effectively fight bureaucratic tyranny becomes systematically reduced.
chalcolithic 2y ago
Isn't imagination enough?

ht85 2y ago

> VR? Sex dolls? Until now, VR child porn and child sized sex dolls were not on my mind when I thought of state sponsored healthcare. I say this half jokingly, I am not really sure how I would want society to deal with that kind of mental illness. It's hard to have a nuanced perception of it, yet without nuance we are no better than the people we judge...

eastbound 2y ago

Especially since we’ve witnessed, after 20 years of porn on the internet, that far from resulting in youths being unfathomably promiscuous, it rather results in a youths not going out enough.

soulofmischief 2y ago

> If the deep fake is of a real person, there is still reputation damage to the person featured. Only if the material was distributed by the individual. If the material remained on the individual's computer, I just don't understand how someone can argue that harm has occurred. Like, maybe there is an argument that some non-zero level of "harm" occurred due to perceived normalization of untoward behavior, but is this worth allowing a slippery slope with no immediately apparent bottom? Where will our benevolent government draw the line on what kind of thought crime is permissible? It's getting really tiring that the only people routinely coming to bat over these kinds of issues are cybersecurity professionals and privacy advocates; the average person still seems to buy into this propaganda and it harms everyone in the end, as our collective ability to effectively fight bureaucratic tyranny becomes systematically reduced.

chalcolithic 2y ago

Isn't imagination enough?