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> Instead, Alexander repeatedly come up with relatively simple solutions that he knows, from experience and intuition, his army can execute. > "Real artists sh

> Instead, Alexander repeatedly come up with relatively simple solutions that he knows, from experience and intuition, his army can execute. > "Real artists ship." —SPJ I once heard a coach claim that given a student with the heart of a champion, they'd podium after having been taught but two actions. (note the importance of two actions: pure strategies don't dominate)

ggm 2y ago
I am sure Yogi Berra wouldn't agree but the verb "to podium" is a neologism I want to help root out and destroy. I sometimes wish we had our winning athletes stand on herms, not a podium. At least the herms are decorated (usually, now chiselled off) I do realize english is a fluid language and adapts to suit it's needs. I do not believe in appeals to dictionary authorities, I just don't LIKE "to podium" as a verb
- flir 2y ago
  Verbing weirds language, but for some reason it also funs language. (j/k)
  - ggm 2y ago
    It's particularly common in the balling arena. Sporting appears to verbalise like nobody else can. They probably medal in it.
    - flir 2y ago
      ok, enough, enough, I admit it - I hateses it.
      - rvense 2y ago
        You're hateful towards it? Personally I'd probably interpret "to medal" as "to meddle" and misunderstand completely.
- BostonFern 2y ago
  its needs
- mikhailfranco 2y ago
  But if an amoeba pretended to win the Olympics, would they pseudopodium ?
  - aebtebeten 2y ago
    In the amoeba Games, they keep a watchful eye on the winners during the anthems, lest they wind up with a single very large medalist, after phagocytosis. (I remember someone —Lambert Meertens?— trying very hard to come up with non-applicable "pure" mathematics word problem involving how to best arrange an ameboid tournament, but of course it was all just a thin disguise —mathematical Groucho Marx glasses!— on top of a very lucrative applied problem: optimal reduction of an operator tree into an accumulator)
- cryptonector 2y ago
  I'd settle for TFA using `who`/`whom` properly :)
GuardianCaveman 2y ago
I don’t understand your comment. What are actions?
- monkeydreams 2y ago
  The fact that a champion does rather than holds back or tries to execute complex plans, is the point. They don't overthink - they just go in and give it 100%.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - lukan 2y ago
    Sounds also like the description of an attacking bull to me.
  - brazzy 2y ago
    The key is, though, that they do the right thing, and are also willing and able to abort or change plans (again, in the right direction) when the situation changes.
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  > What are actions? Tactics; ways to attack. (probably an unspoken assumption is that the two actions taught would both start in the same way, so one launches the attack, sees which* line gets closed, and continues in the line which has been opened. Even if you don't have the speed to properly determine the open line for the continuation, it's still possible to successfully run the pair as a mixed strategy and expect to find an opening stochastically) * the same coach believes the most beautiful action is "feint direct, direct": at first you pretend to straightforwardly touch, but should your opponent fail to defend (because they're expecting a more complex action and are waiting to see where you're really going to attack), you go ahead and turn the "feint" into a real score.
schmidt_fifty 2y ago
> "Real artists ship." —SPJ Many of the most prolific artists of all time are now forgotten by the masses. The choice of "artist" is particularly perplexing here because the implied sentiment seems to apply primarily to industry and not to artists.
- brazzy 2y ago
  But all the artists that never completed a work because they always thought "it's not perfect yet" are forgotten, by everyone.
  - llm_trw 2y ago
    Yet there are plenty of one hit wonders that are remembered. Tolkien being an example.
    - KineticLensman 2y ago
      That’s two hits: the Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. Also several academic pieces in his professional field. Not including the material subsequently published by his son and estate.
      - antupis 2y ago
        And The Lord of Rings was first published as separated books.
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      Back in the day, it only took one hit, and after that one could drive off of Skyline Blvd in a sports car, or retire to a horse farm, or run a SF nightclub, etc. see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34566920 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34566920
  - schmidt_fifty 2y ago
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ctchocula 2y ago
> I once heard a coach claim that given a student with the heart of a champion, they'd podium after having been taught but two actions. Out of curiosity, for which sport?
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  fencing (specifically épée, but I find the principle valid for just about any direct competition, including team sports)

ggm 2y ago

I am sure Yogi Berra wouldn't agree but the verb "to podium" is a neologism I want to help root out and destroy. I sometimes wish we had our winning athletes stand on herms, not a podium. At least the herms are decorated (usually, now chiselled off) I do realize english is a fluid language and adapts to suit it's needs. I do not believe in appeals to dictionary authorities, I just don't LIKE "to podium" as a verb

flir 2y ago
Verbing weirds language, but for some reason it also funs language. (j/k)
- ggm 2y ago
  It's particularly common in the balling arena. Sporting appears to verbalise like nobody else can. They probably medal in it.
  - flir 2y ago
    ok, enough, enough, I admit it - I hateses it.
    - rvense 2y ago
      You're hateful towards it? Personally I'd probably interpret "to medal" as "to meddle" and misunderstand completely.
BostonFern 2y ago
its needs
mikhailfranco 2y ago
But if an amoeba pretended to win the Olympics, would they pseudopodium ?
- aebtebeten 2y ago
  In the amoeba Games, they keep a watchful eye on the winners during the anthems, lest they wind up with a single very large medalist, after phagocytosis. (I remember someone —Lambert Meertens?— trying very hard to come up with non-applicable "pure" mathematics word problem involving how to best arrange an ameboid tournament, but of course it was all just a thin disguise —mathematical Groucho Marx glasses!— on top of a very lucrative applied problem: optimal reduction of an operator tree into an accumulator)
cryptonector 2y ago
I'd settle for TFA using `who`/`whom` properly :)

GuardianCaveman 2y ago

I don’t understand your comment. What are actions?

monkeydreams 2y ago
The fact that a champion does rather than holds back or tries to execute complex plans, is the point. They don't overthink - they just go in and give it 100%.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- lukan 2y ago
  Sounds also like the description of an attacking bull to me.
- brazzy 2y ago
  The key is, though, that they do the right thing, and are also willing and able to abort or change plans (again, in the right direction) when the situation changes.
082349872349872 2y ago
> What are actions? Tactics; ways to attack. (probably an unspoken assumption is that the two actions taught would both start in the same way, so one launches the attack, sees which* line gets closed, and continues in the line which has been opened. Even if you don't have the speed to properly determine the open line for the continuation, it's still possible to successfully run the pair as a mixed strategy and expect to find an opening stochastically) * the same coach believes the most beautiful action is "feint direct, direct": at first you pretend to straightforwardly touch, but should your opponent fail to defend (because they're expecting a more complex action and are waiting to see where you're really going to attack), you go ahead and turn the "feint" into a real score.

schmidt_fifty 2y ago

> "Real artists ship." —SPJ Many of the most prolific artists of all time are now forgotten by the masses. The choice of "artist" is particularly perplexing here because the implied sentiment seems to apply primarily to industry and not to artists.

brazzy 2y ago
But all the artists that never completed a work because they always thought "it's not perfect yet" are forgotten, by everyone.
- llm_trw 2y ago
  Yet there are plenty of one hit wonders that are remembered. Tolkien being an example.
  - KineticLensman 2y ago
    That’s two hits: the Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. Also several academic pieces in his professional field. Not including the material subsequently published by his son and estate.
    - antupis 2y ago
      And The Lord of Rings was first published as separated books.
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Back in the day, it only took one hit, and after that one could drive off of Skyline Blvd in a sports car, or retire to a horse farm, or run a SF nightclub, etc. see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34566920 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34566920
- schmidt_fifty 2y ago
  [dead]

ctchocula 2y ago

> I once heard a coach claim that given a student with the heart of a champion, they'd podium after having been taught but two actions. Out of curiosity, for which sport?

082349872349872 2y ago
fencing (specifically épée, but I find the principle valid for just about any direct competition, including team sports)