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Please. Elon's track record to take tesla from concept car stage to current mass production levels and building SpaceX from scratch is hardly comparable to Altm

by treme 2y ago

Please. Elon's track record to take tesla from concept car stage to current mass production levels and building SpaceX from scratch is hardly comparable to Altman's track record.

satvikpendem 2y ago
Indeed, at least Elon and his teams actually accomplished something worthwhile compared to Altman.
jajko 2y ago
But he is a manager, not an engineer although he sells himself off as such. He keeps smart capable folks around, abuses most of them pretty horribly, and when he intervenes with products its hit and miss. For example latest Tesla Model 3 changes must have been pretty major fuckup and there is no way he didn't ack it all. Plus all self-driving lies and more lies well within fraud territory at this point. Not even going into his sociopathic personality, massive childish ego and apparent 'daddy issues' which in men manifest exactly like him. He is not in day-to-day SpaceX control and it shows.
- treme 2y ago
  "A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticize work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life's realities—all these are marks, not ... of superiority but of weakness.”
  - Angostura 2y ago
    As is repeatedly spamming the same pasta
- formerly_proven 2y ago
  You’re confusing mommy and daddy issues. Mommy issues is what makes fash control freaks.
TechnicolorByte 2y ago
SpaceX didn’t start from scratch. Their initial designs were based on NASA designs. Stop perpetuating the “genius engineer” myth around Elon Musk.
- hanspeter 2y ago
  By that logic nothing has started from scratch.
- SirensOfTitan 2y ago
  “If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch You must first invent the universe” …no one “started from scratch", the sum of all knowledge is built on prior foundations.
- colibri727 2y ago
  Altman is riding a new tech wave, and his team has a couple of years' head start. Musk's reusable rockets were conceptualized a long time ago (Tintin's Destination Moon dates back to 1953) and could have become a reality several decades ago.
  - treme 2y ago
    You seriously trying to take his credit away for reusable rocket with "nu uh, it was in scifi first?" Wow. "A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticize work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life's realities—all these are marks, not ... of superiority but of weakness.”
    - colibri727 2y ago
      No, in fact I'm praising Musk for his project management abilities and his ability to take risks. >"nu uh, it was in scifi first?" Wow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X >NASA had taken on the project grudgingly after having been "shamed" by its very public success under the direction of the SDIO.[citation needed] Its continued success was cause for considerable political in-fighting within NASA due to it competing with their "home grown" Lockheed Martin X-33/VentureStar project. Pete Conrad priced a new DC-X at $50 million, cheap by NASA standards, but NASA decided not to rebuild the craft in light of budget constraints "Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit." - Oscar Wilde
lr1970 2y ago
And don't forget StarLink that revolutionized satellite communications.

by treme 2y ago

Please. Elon's track record to take tesla from concept car stage to current mass production levels and building SpaceX from scratch is hardly comparable to Altman's track record.

satvikpendem 2y ago

Indeed, at least Elon and his teams actually accomplished something worthwhile compared to Altman.

jajko 2y ago

But he is a manager, not an engineer although he sells himself off as such. He keeps smart capable folks around, abuses most of them pretty horribly, and when he intervenes with products its hit and miss. For example latest Tesla Model 3 changes must have been pretty major fuckup and there is no way he didn't ack it all. Plus all self-driving lies and more lies well within fraud territory at this point. Not even going into his sociopathic personality, massive childish ego and apparent 'daddy issues' which in men manifest exactly like him. He is not in day-to-day SpaceX control and it shows.

treme 2y ago
"A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticize work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life's realities—all these are marks, not ... of superiority but of weakness.”
- Angostura 2y ago
  As is repeatedly spamming the same pasta
formerly_proven 2y ago
You’re confusing mommy and daddy issues. Mommy issues is what makes fash control freaks.

TechnicolorByte 2y ago

SpaceX didn’t start from scratch. Their initial designs were based on NASA designs. Stop perpetuating the “genius engineer” myth around Elon Musk.

hanspeter 2y ago
By that logic nothing has started from scratch.
SirensOfTitan 2y ago
“If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch You must first invent the universe” …no one “started from scratch", the sum of all knowledge is built on prior foundations.
colibri727 2y ago
Altman is riding a new tech wave, and his team has a couple of years' head start. Musk's reusable rockets were conceptualized a long time ago (Tintin's Destination Moon dates back to 1953) and could have become a reality several decades ago.
- treme 2y ago
  You seriously trying to take his credit away for reusable rocket with "nu uh, it was in scifi first?" Wow. "A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticize work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life's realities—all these are marks, not ... of superiority but of weakness.”
  - colibri727 2y ago
    No, in fact I'm praising Musk for his project management abilities and his ability to take risks. >"nu uh, it was in scifi first?" Wow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_DC-X >NASA had taken on the project grudgingly after having been "shamed" by its very public success under the direction of the SDIO.[citation needed] Its continued success was cause for considerable political in-fighting within NASA due to it competing with their "home grown" Lockheed Martin X-33/VentureStar project. Pete Conrad priced a new DC-X at $50 million, cheap by NASA standards, but NASA decided not to rebuild the craft in light of budget constraints "Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit." - Oscar Wilde

lr1970 2y ago

And don't forget StarLink that revolutionized satellite communications.