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guns kill people just like cars drive drunk and forks make people fat. Mexico has super strict gun laws, read the news and you'll see how well that is working

by viggity 14y ago

guns kill people just like cars drive drunk and forks make people fat. Mexico has super strict gun laws, read the news and you'll see how well that is working out for them.

mfringel 14y ago
A gun is a force multiplier that makes it easier to kill someone. A car is a force multiplier that makes it easier for a drunk person to kill someone. A fork is a non-sequitur placed presumably to create a Voltron-like strawman out of a gun, car and fork.
zbuc 14y ago
That's kind of disingenuous, Mexico has massive corruption problems and a massive, semi-open black market.
- anamax 14y ago
  > That's kind of disingenuous, Mexico has massive corruption problems and a massive, semi-open black market. reply And the US doesn't? Where do you think that the recreational drugs come from?
  - zbuc 14y ago
    Not to the degree Mexico has. And drugs are entirely different from guns -- drugs are something an individual takes that affects them; guns are bought by those who either feel the need for defense or the need to kill people easier.
    - anamax 14y ago
      > And drugs are entirely different from guns Not from the supplier's point of view. (There is one difference - guns aren't consumables. Ignoring that, the US could supply a gun per crime with less than 1% of the suspected marijuana smuggling volume.) FWIW, I've been offered illegal guns in both England and Japan. "You" may not know where to find them (but I suspect that you're lying to yourself about that) but anyone who does can.
ashconnor 14y ago
Your straw-man argument falls flat on the fact that the US is actually quite good at enforcing it's laws.
yread 14y ago
Well, actually Mexico is safer for Americans than the US: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/blog/2012/04/30/are-americans-safer-in-mexico-than-at-home http://www.lonelyplanet.com/blog/2012/04/30/are-americans-sa... edit: on the other hand there's Switzerland with 3M firearms (including assault rifles) among population and 0.9 homicide rate

by viggity 14y ago

guns kill people just like cars drive drunk and forks make people fat. Mexico has super strict gun laws, read the news and you'll see how well that is working out for them.

mfringel 14y ago

A gun is a force multiplier that makes it easier to kill someone. A car is a force multiplier that makes it easier for a drunk person to kill someone. A fork is a non-sequitur placed presumably to create a Voltron-like strawman out of a gun, car and fork.

zbuc 14y ago

That's kind of disingenuous, Mexico has massive corruption problems and a massive, semi-open black market.

anamax 14y ago
> That's kind of disingenuous, Mexico has massive corruption problems and a massive, semi-open black market. reply And the US doesn't? Where do you think that the recreational drugs come from?
- zbuc 14y ago
  Not to the degree Mexico has. And drugs are entirely different from guns -- drugs are something an individual takes that affects them; guns are bought by those who either feel the need for defense or the need to kill people easier.
  - anamax 14y ago
    > And drugs are entirely different from guns Not from the supplier's point of view. (There is one difference - guns aren't consumables. Ignoring that, the US could supply a gun per crime with less than 1% of the suspected marijuana smuggling volume.) FWIW, I've been offered illegal guns in both England and Japan. "You" may not know where to find them (but I suspect that you're lying to yourself about that) but anyone who does can.

ashconnor 14y ago

Your straw-man argument falls flat on the fact that the US is actually quite good at enforcing it's laws.

yread 14y ago

Well, actually Mexico is safer for Americans than the US: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/blog/2012/04/30/are-americans-safer-in-mexico-than-at-home http://www.lonelyplanet.com/blog/2012/04/30/are-americans-sa... edit: on the other hand there's Switzerland with 3M firearms (including assault rifles) among population and 0.9 homicide rate