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Personally, I've always wanted a vehicle with the speed and fuel efficiency approaching a motorcycle and a 5-star crash safety rating. Motorcycles are a death t

by Yxven 14y ago

Personally, I've always wanted a vehicle with the speed and fuel efficiency approaching a motorcycle and a 5-star crash safety rating. Motorcycles are a death trap, and I refuse to ride one despite their many advantages.

elviejo 14y ago
And this is the value add.
- heretohelp 14y ago
  No...it's not. This thing is just as dangerous as a motorcycle. The danger is from not having the steel cage protecting you, not from tipping over in a parking lot. Motorcycles aren't even difficult to balance...at all. They're easier than bicycles in that respect because they self-stabilize from the speed that operate at. You only need balance when puttering about in the parking lot, and even then, scarcely. I have to stop reading this thread. I'm a keen motorcyclist and it's vividly apparent none of you know what you're talking about in the slightest. This vehicle is useless.
  - DeepDuh 14y ago
    Sorry, but aren't you contradicting yourself? If the danger of a motorcycle lies in the lack of a cage, why is this useless?
    - heretohelp 14y ago
      It's useless because it's inferior to a motorcycle in every respect including safety.
ken 14y ago
Unfortunately, I think you're imagining a fantasy vehicle: your requirements are pretty much in direct conflict with each other. The smaller the vehicle, the less it can rely on passive safety (crashing better), and the more it has to rely on its advantages at active safety (avoiding crashing). You can't cheat physics: a tiny personal vehicle is never going to have passive safety as good as a midsize car. Even relatively safe compact cars like the Toyota Yaris don't have 5-star crash ratings, so I don't see how a 2-wheeler ever will. Motorcycles are dangerous primarily because (a) small fast vehicles tend to attract more than their share of irresponsible people (which, not uncommonly, includes alcohol), and (b) car drivers have trouble seeing tiny vehicles. I don't see how this vehicle proposes to change either of these factors.
adrianbravo 14y ago
This vehicle is likely more difficult to see in a rear- or side-view mirror than a motorcycle given it's so low to the ground.

by Yxven 14y ago

elviejo 14y ago

And this is the value add.

heretohelp 14y ago
No...it's not. This thing is just as dangerous as a motorcycle. The danger is from not having the steel cage protecting you, not from tipping over in a parking lot. Motorcycles aren't even difficult to balance...at all. They're easier than bicycles in that respect because they self-stabilize from the speed that operate at. You only need balance when puttering about in the parking lot, and even then, scarcely. I have to stop reading this thread. I'm a keen motorcyclist and it's vividly apparent none of you know what you're talking about in the slightest. This vehicle is useless.
- DeepDuh 14y ago
  Sorry, but aren't you contradicting yourself? If the danger of a motorcycle lies in the lack of a cage, why is this useless?
  - heretohelp 14y ago
    It's useless because it's inferior to a motorcycle in every respect including safety.

ken 14y ago

Unfortunately, I think you're imagining a fantasy vehicle: your requirements are pretty much in direct conflict with each other. The smaller the vehicle, the less it can rely on passive safety (crashing better), and the more it has to rely on its advantages at active safety (avoiding crashing). You can't cheat physics: a tiny personal vehicle is never going to have passive safety as good as a midsize car. Even relatively safe compact cars like the Toyota Yaris don't have 5-star crash ratings, so I don't see how a 2-wheeler ever will. Motorcycles are dangerous primarily because (a) small fast vehicles tend to attract more than their share of irresponsible people (which, not uncommonly, includes alcohol), and (b) car drivers have trouble seeing tiny vehicles. I don't see how this vehicle proposes to change either of these factors.

adrianbravo 14y ago

This vehicle is likely more difficult to see in a rear- or side-view mirror than a motorcycle given it's so low to the ground.