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Experience and age have diminishing returns. Biden's been hands-on in his domain for over 50 years, yet "quick" is definitely not the word that comes to most p

by gspetr 2y ago

Experience and age have diminishing returns. Biden's been hands-on in his domain for over 50 years, yet "quick" is definitely not the word that comes to most people's mind when they think of him nowadays.

jedberg 2y ago
Actually quick is definitely something that comes to mind. Quick in politics is of course relative, but the speed with which he has enacted major changes (for example marijuana legalization) is pretty quick in the realm of politics when congress is of the other party.
- willy_k 2y ago
  He’s barely able to read a teleprompter, not too confident that Biden himself enacted those changes.
  - modriano 2y ago
    We've had nearly 4 years with no scandals and emerged from the pandemic with the best economic recovery of any country, and despite having no margin to spare in Congress, master legislator Joe Biden has secured massive climate change, infrastructure, and gun control bills, not to mention he's ended our two decade war in Afghanistan and overseen the fastest wage growth of the two lowest income quintiles seen in modern history. And every time people actually watch him speak (not just a selected clip), there's weeks of coverage about how alive JB seems, not recognizing that all evidence points to that being typical.
    - patrick451 2y ago
      > We've had nearly 4 years with no scandals This isn't the flex you think it is. When the media is lapping out of your hand like a 6 week old puppy instead of doing their fifth estate job, of course there are no scandals. > and gun control bills, You mean stripping Americans of their constitutional rights. > not to mention he's ended our two decade war in Afghanistan. Which was an unmitigated disaster. > and overseen the fastest wage growth of the two lowest income quintiles seen in modern history. Hello inflation.
      - throw10920 2y ago
        >> and gun control bills > You mean stripping Americans of their constitutional rights. Not that I disagree with you, but when posters like modriano engage in political/partisan commentary on HN, I find it more productive to merely downvote and flag their comments rather than replying and getting engaged in a war. A dead post makes quite the impression, as this sort of political commentary just generally defeats the quality of discourse on HN (which, you must admit, is much better than many other platforms, and I'd like to try to preserve it as long as possible).
throw10920 2y ago
> Biden's been hands-on in his domain for over 50 years, yet "quick" is definitely not the word that comes to most people's mind when they think of him nowadays. Please don't post flamebaity political tangents on HN. > Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- mc32 2y ago
  It’s a counterpoint anyone can identify with. One can interpret it uncharitably as flame bait if one wants to, but it need not be. It could have been Reagan in his second term, but some may not know who he was. Or Lee Smolin.
  - throw10920 2y ago
    This is objectively false. It is not a counterpoint, because it's not an argument. It's an extremely subjective claim that is highly contentious (like jedberg's sibling comment[1]), definitely not something that "anyone can identify with" (as the vast majority of people do not know Joe Biden and instead view him through one of a small number of extremely skewed lenses) and clearly in the realm of "off-topic flamebait" that is not appropriate on HN. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40394477 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40394477
  - fnordpiglet 2y ago
    I’d avoid the Reagan or other comparison as well even if I have medical evidence for their decline as you see with Reagan. In this specific case of Biden there’s not even that so it’s purely a political opinion and it’s definitely bait for flame even if not intended as such.

by gspetr 2y ago

jedberg 2y ago

Actually quick is definitely something that comes to mind. Quick in politics is of course relative, but the speed with which he has enacted major changes (for example marijuana legalization) is pretty quick in the realm of politics when congress is of the other party.

willy_k 2y ago
He’s barely able to read a teleprompter, not too confident that Biden himself enacted those changes.
- modriano 2y ago
  We've had nearly 4 years with no scandals and emerged from the pandemic with the best economic recovery of any country, and despite having no margin to spare in Congress, master legislator Joe Biden has secured massive climate change, infrastructure, and gun control bills, not to mention he's ended our two decade war in Afghanistan and overseen the fastest wage growth of the two lowest income quintiles seen in modern history. And every time people actually watch him speak (not just a selected clip), there's weeks of coverage about how alive JB seems, not recognizing that all evidence points to that being typical.
  - patrick451 2y ago
    > We've had nearly 4 years with no scandals This isn't the flex you think it is. When the media is lapping out of your hand like a 6 week old puppy instead of doing their fifth estate job, of course there are no scandals. > and gun control bills, You mean stripping Americans of their constitutional rights. > not to mention he's ended our two decade war in Afghanistan. Which was an unmitigated disaster. > and overseen the fastest wage growth of the two lowest income quintiles seen in modern history. Hello inflation.
    - throw10920 2y ago
      >> and gun control bills > You mean stripping Americans of their constitutional rights. Not that I disagree with you, but when posters like modriano engage in political/partisan commentary on HN, I find it more productive to merely downvote and flag their comments rather than replying and getting engaged in a war. A dead post makes quite the impression, as this sort of political commentary just generally defeats the quality of discourse on HN (which, you must admit, is much better than many other platforms, and I'd like to try to preserve it as long as possible).

throw10920 2y ago

> Biden's been hands-on in his domain for over 50 years, yet "quick" is definitely not the word that comes to most people's mind when they think of him nowadays. Please don't post flamebaity political tangents on HN. > Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

mc32 2y ago
It’s a counterpoint anyone can identify with. One can interpret it uncharitably as flame bait if one wants to, but it need not be. It could have been Reagan in his second term, but some may not know who he was. Or Lee Smolin.
- throw10920 2y ago
  This is objectively false. It is not a counterpoint, because it's not an argument. It's an extremely subjective claim that is highly contentious (like jedberg's sibling comment[1]), definitely not something that "anyone can identify with" (as the vast majority of people do not know Joe Biden and instead view him through one of a small number of extremely skewed lenses) and clearly in the realm of "off-topic flamebait" that is not appropriate on HN. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40394477 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40394477
- fnordpiglet 2y ago
  I’d avoid the Reagan or other comparison as well even if I have medical evidence for their decline as you see with Reagan. In this specific case of Biden there’s not even that so it’s purely a political opinion and it’s definitely bait for flame even if not intended as such.