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Microsoft is very annoying with all the self-promotion Why can't I save a Word document without it defaulting to a location in MS cloud storage?

cynicalsecurity 2y ago
Why are you still using MS Office when LibreOffice exists.
- recursive 2y ago
  Because its use has been standardized by my employer.
  - Onawa 2y ago
    Exactly, if I send anything other than a .docx to my colleagues, it will be ignored.
    - Rinzler89 2y ago
      Will .odt not work?
    - cynicalsecurity 2y ago
      LibreOffice supports docx. Again, if it's your employer's decision, then it's your employer's problem that every price of documentation is leaking outside of the company. Is it safe in a cloud? No one can tell for sure. Maybe your employer doesn't care. For any private usage, LibreOffice works best. It's not trying to sneakily upload your private information to Microsoft.
  - cynicalsecurity 2y ago
    If it's a company's procedure, then why would you care. They should care, not you. If they are okay with it, it's their problem. For any private usage, LibreOffice works better. It's not trying to leak everything you do to Microsoft.
- utensil4778 2y ago
  As any LibreOffice user will tell you, LibreOffice is hot wet trash compared to earlier versions of MS Office. LibreOffice suffers badly from a very dated and unfriendly UI. It's an iconic example of large FOSS applications having terrible UI/UX. Office is quite simply a better product apart from the connection to Microsoft. Or at least it was, I haven't touched it since Windows 10 launched. Either way, LibreOffice is only barely viable as an alternative.
  - cynicalsecurity 2y ago
    https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/User_interface https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/User_interface
Rinzler89 2y ago
Because some product manager at Microsoft needs something to show for at his next performance review, and that kind of forced user engagement an easy KPI to game and show off: "Thanks to my leadership and my team's work of setting the default save path in Word to OneDrive, OneDrive users are now up by 500%! Now gib house in Bellevue." This isn't just a problem isolated to Microsoft but applies to every major publicly listed company out there where you're tasked to justify your existence every year/quarter because Wall Street investors want their "growth" pound of flesh, leading workers to fuck with every product they can to generate the necessary theatrics for a promotion at the expense of everything else. It's the curse of chasing short term gains at the expense of long term product quality and reputation damage. See Boeing. It's a wonder how Steve Jobs managed to avoid this trap for so long during his tenure.

cynicalsecurity 2y ago

Why are you still using MS Office when LibreOffice exists.

recursive 2y ago
Because its use has been standardized by my employer.
- Onawa 2y ago
  Exactly, if I send anything other than a .docx to my colleagues, it will be ignored.
  - Rinzler89 2y ago
    Will .odt not work?
  - cynicalsecurity 2y ago
    LibreOffice supports docx. Again, if it's your employer's decision, then it's your employer's problem that every price of documentation is leaking outside of the company. Is it safe in a cloud? No one can tell for sure. Maybe your employer doesn't care. For any private usage, LibreOffice works best. It's not trying to sneakily upload your private information to Microsoft.
- cynicalsecurity 2y ago
  If it's a company's procedure, then why would you care. They should care, not you. If they are okay with it, it's their problem. For any private usage, LibreOffice works better. It's not trying to leak everything you do to Microsoft.
utensil4778 2y ago
As any LibreOffice user will tell you, LibreOffice is hot wet trash compared to earlier versions of MS Office. LibreOffice suffers badly from a very dated and unfriendly UI. It's an iconic example of large FOSS applications having terrible UI/UX. Office is quite simply a better product apart from the connection to Microsoft. Or at least it was, I haven't touched it since Windows 10 launched. Either way, LibreOffice is only barely viable as an alternative.
- cynicalsecurity 2y ago
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/User_interface https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/User_interface

Rinzler89 2y ago

Because some product manager at Microsoft needs something to show for at his next performance review, and that kind of forced user engagement an easy KPI to game and show off: "Thanks to my leadership and my team's work of setting the default save path in Word to OneDrive, OneDrive users are now up by 500%! Now gib house in Bellevue." This isn't just a problem isolated to Microsoft but applies to every major publicly listed company out there where you're tasked to justify your existence every year/quarter because Wall Street investors want their "growth" pound of flesh, leading workers to fuck with every product they can to generate the necessary theatrics for a promotion at the expense of everything else. It's the curse of chasing short term gains at the expense of long term product quality and reputation damage. See Boeing. It's a wonder how Steve Jobs managed to avoid this trap for so long during his tenure.