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No one has ever left the normal state of reality. Only perception. Certainly humans have been hallucinating and imagining things forever. Also, lying about your
by tootie 2y ago
No one has ever left the normal state of reality. Only perception. Certainly humans have been hallucinating and imagining things forever. Also, lying about your knowledge is a pretty universal human trait. Graham Hancock is proof of that.
- mandmandam 2y agoI didn't say *the* normal state of reality, I said their normal state. And that's not untrue, so why do you think you've proved Hancock a liar?
- tootie 2y agoThere's only one reality that we're all in all the time.
- ab5tract 2y agoAnd you just happen to know the precise shape of it all? Reality just unfolded its entire mysteries for you and you alone, I guess.
- tootie 2y agoNo. But it didn't unfold itself to anyone else either. Shamans have never produced a single falsifiable hypothesis. Reality is exposed but by bit through observation and experimentation. Preferably while sober.
- ab5tract 2y agoThe combination of plants that creates ayahuasca appeared in a dream. Shamans have identified cancers and illnesses in people. If science can’t cope with these realities, that’s a science problem.
- mandmandam 2y agoThat's it. Shamans appear in disparate cultures over millenia upon millenia, helping people in astounding and near-inexplicable ways... And modern academia is just like, 'well, they believe in spirits and take drugs so they must be dumb - now off I go to work to pay my $400,000 mortgage, because that's sensible'. We owe these traditions an astonishing unacknowledged debt, and the people telling us so are ferociously attacked. It's a shame. And it will change.