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Why should it be a job of a FreeBSD port maintainer and not Thunderbird maintaining the port?

prmoustache 2y ago
Because that is the way the linux distros and BSD traditionnally package software and this is the most integrated way for the user who is just a small command away to get the software. Additionally it removes the burden of maintaining tens of operating system packages to the developers who can still decide to themselves be the maintainers if that is their wish or nobody else want to do it. A win-win situation. Do you prefer the users to look for software, figure out from themselves they are hitting the right website and not a fake clone with same software but with integrated malware, then to download them and install them with a terrible install process involving hitting next next next install while making sure to not let a checkbox checked that will had some adware like in old win9x days? BSD ports and curated linux software package repositories are the origins/ancestors of the "app" stores for good reasons. The later only add some voting systems and putting the burden of package maintenance on the software developers, remove curation and don't really prevent rogue mainteners to release malicious clones. I prefer the linux/BSD way.
- doublerabbit 2y ago
  Yeah, I'm just saying that maybe Thunderbird should create their own package to ensure 100% is as they want it. Ports only gives myself a selection chosen by the packager, for example Chromium package does not have PulseAudio enabled. I had to recompile it myself to enable Pulse.
  - prmoustache 2y ago
    > Yeah, I'm just saying that maybe Thunderbird should create their own package to ensure 100% is as they want it. That was not really the tone of your original comment. They have perfectly the right to not care enough to not care enough to package it themselves. I am fine if they are just willing to correct bugs and/or upstream any patch a freebsd port maintainer would send them. Besides you can change ports compilation options with `make config` as well as forking the ports into your own local repo on which you would maintain your own patches if needed. That can be done without any work from the thunderbird or FreeBSD teams.
    - doublerabbit 2y ago
      Either or. No listing of FreeBSD.

Because that is the way the linux distros and BSD traditionnally package software and this is the most integrated way for the user who is just a small command away to get the software. Additionally it removes the burden of maintaining tens of operating system packages to the developers who can still decide to themselves be the maintainers if that is their wish or nobody else want to do it. A win-win situation. Do you prefer the users to look for software, figure out from themselves they are hitting the right website and not a fake clone with same software but with integrated malware, then to download them and install them with a terrible install process involving hitting next next next install while making sure to not let a checkbox checked that will had some adware like in old win9x days? BSD ports and curated linux software package repositories are the origins/ancestors of the "app" stores for good reasons. The later only add some voting systems and putting the burden of package maintenance on the software developers, remove curation and don't really prevent rogue mainteners to release malicious clones. I prefer the linux/BSD way.

doublerabbit 2y ago
Yeah, I'm just saying that maybe Thunderbird should create their own package to ensure 100% is as they want it. Ports only gives myself a selection chosen by the packager, for example Chromium package does not have PulseAudio enabled. I had to recompile it myself to enable Pulse.
- prmoustache 2y ago
  > Yeah, I'm just saying that maybe Thunderbird should create their own package to ensure 100% is as they want it. That was not really the tone of your original comment. They have perfectly the right to not care enough to not care enough to package it themselves. I am fine if they are just willing to correct bugs and/or upstream any patch a freebsd port maintainer would send them. Besides you can change ports compilation options with `make config` as well as forking the ports into your own local repo on which you would maintain your own patches if needed. That can be done without any work from the thunderbird or FreeBSD teams.
  - doublerabbit 2y ago
    Either or. No listing of FreeBSD.