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Have you seen any Banksy? Do you consider his work graffiti? Most of his work is graffiti’d onto public property without permission. https://www.artsy.net/art

Have you seen any Banksy? Do you consider his work graffiti? Most of his work is graffiti’d onto public property without permission. https://www.artsy.net/artist/banksy https://www.artsy.net/artist/banksy

kmmlng 2y ago
Of course you can find stuff that's high quality, but that is rare. Rather than looking at outliers, it might be more sensible to look at the average and the reality is that the average graffiti does not have any artistic value.
constantcrying 2y ago
I grant Banksy that he has some technical competency and is able to do something somewhat visually interesting (his use of color works quite well and makes his pieces stand out within the medium), but I really hate him as an artist. There is basically no one who makes greater kitsch than him. Everything he makes is steeped in the middle class, liberal, mediocrity of someone who points out that things, which everyone agrees are bad, actually are bad. It seriously is something of the worst "art" I have ever seen and actually makes me quite sympathetic to the post modernists whose movement is a reaction to people like him. The middle schooler, scribbling on canvas, is at least not trying desperately to impress the most bourgeois group of people the world has ever seen. That alone puts everything he does a serious step above Banksy.
wiseowise 2y ago
> Have you seen any Banksy? Do you consider his work graffiti? Yes and yes. Overhyped "I'm 14 and this is deep" energy.
highcountess 2y ago
Of course it’s graffiti and it’s still imposing on others against their will, regardless of whether it’s peak narcissist Banksy or someone else. Is very much about transgression and imposition and sadistic domination for personalities like Banksy and graffiti artists in general; it’s precisely why they put their “art” in other people’s things against their will. So if I graffiti your car because I believe it improves your car; would that be ok with you? It’s art. You should be happy, right?
- charamis 2y ago
  In what kind of city do graffiti happen on cars and households? mostly it's on public property
  - constantcrying 2y ago
    Certainly in the cities mentioned in the Article, e.g. Berlin and Hamburg.
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kmmlng 2y ago

Of course you can find stuff that's high quality, but that is rare. Rather than looking at outliers, it might be more sensible to look at the average and the reality is that the average graffiti does not have any artistic value.

constantcrying 2y ago

I grant Banksy that he has some technical competency and is able to do something somewhat visually interesting (his use of color works quite well and makes his pieces stand out within the medium), but I really hate him as an artist. There is basically no one who makes greater kitsch than him. Everything he makes is steeped in the middle class, liberal, mediocrity of someone who points out that things, which everyone agrees are bad, actually are bad. It seriously is something of the worst "art" I have ever seen and actually makes me quite sympathetic to the post modernists whose movement is a reaction to people like him. The middle schooler, scribbling on canvas, is at least not trying desperately to impress the most bourgeois group of people the world has ever seen. That alone puts everything he does a serious step above Banksy.

wiseowise 2y ago

> Have you seen any Banksy? Do you consider his work graffiti? Yes and yes. Overhyped "I'm 14 and this is deep" energy.

highcountess 2y ago

Of course it’s graffiti and it’s still imposing on others against their will, regardless of whether it’s peak narcissist Banksy or someone else. Is very much about transgression and imposition and sadistic domination for personalities like Banksy and graffiti artists in general; it’s precisely why they put their “art” in other people’s things against their will. So if I graffiti your car because I believe it improves your car; would that be ok with you? It’s art. You should be happy, right?

charamis 2y ago
In what kind of city do graffiti happen on cars and households? mostly it's on public property
- constantcrying 2y ago
  Certainly in the cities mentioned in the Article, e.g. Berlin and Hamburg.

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