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Yes, so what would you buy that is better in a similar price range. It’s a serious question. I own a few years old Tesla but I wouldn’t buy another one until M

Yes, so what would you buy that is better in a similar price range. It’s a serious question. I own a few years old Tesla but I wouldn’t buy another one until Musk is out, but everything else seems worse or a lot more expensive.

constantcrying 2y ago
I think it completely depends on where you live and what you want. Here in Germany the Teslas are quite expensive when compared with e.g. VWs and are about on par with BMWs I can't imagine any circumstances where I would buy a Tesla. I think what you should do is try to figure out what kind of car you want and what you want to do with it. The likelihood that you won't find anything that fits seems quite small, since most of the world's largest automakers are trying to make cars exactly for people like you.
- speedgoose 2y ago
  I live in Norway, where an VW ID3 is the price of a Model 3 and an ID4 the price of a Model Y. I drove an ID4 for about a week and it's a worse car in almost every ways, except the turning radius and the sound of the closing doors in my humble opinion. BMW is completely in another price range once you put back the equipment that comes standard from the cheapest Tesla.
  - constantcrying 2y ago
    I mentioned the brands as price comparison. My point is that there are actually many, many other brands you can pick from, depending on what kind of car you want.
    - speedgoose 2y ago
      Yes the market is quite developed now. But none of those other brands seem to sell better alternatives of the best selling Teslas. They have some advantages there and there, but when you drive the car and compared everything I'm still waiting for some good alternative. The people I know who didn't buy a Tesla but something similar, before the CEO turned out to be a nazi sympathiser, they mostly bought other brands due to their brand loyalty or aversion to change.
- lycopodiopsida 2y ago
  Teslas are still quite cheap - VW's also historically have had problems with infotainment. The ones which are good (ID.7, BMW i4) are also more expensive - although arguably they are much better cars than Tesla in most areas. But, if I would look for an electric car in Tesla segment I would look into Hyundai Ionic 5/6 or Kia EV6 - they are in general great cars, which have proper service networks and will be around for years, what sets them apart from a chinese tesla-killer du jour.

constantcrying 2y ago

I think it completely depends on where you live and what you want. Here in Germany the Teslas are quite expensive when compared with e.g. VWs and are about on par with BMWs I can't imagine any circumstances where I would buy a Tesla. I think what you should do is try to figure out what kind of car you want and what you want to do with it. The likelihood that you won't find anything that fits seems quite small, since most of the world's largest automakers are trying to make cars exactly for people like you.

speedgoose 2y ago
I live in Norway, where an VW ID3 is the price of a Model 3 and an ID4 the price of a Model Y. I drove an ID4 for about a week and it's a worse car in almost every ways, except the turning radius and the sound of the closing doors in my humble opinion. BMW is completely in another price range once you put back the equipment that comes standard from the cheapest Tesla.
- constantcrying 2y ago
  I mentioned the brands as price comparison. My point is that there are actually many, many other brands you can pick from, depending on what kind of car you want.
  - speedgoose 2y ago
    Yes the market is quite developed now. But none of those other brands seem to sell better alternatives of the best selling Teslas. They have some advantages there and there, but when you drive the car and compared everything I'm still waiting for some good alternative. The people I know who didn't buy a Tesla but something similar, before the CEO turned out to be a nazi sympathiser, they mostly bought other brands due to their brand loyalty or aversion to change.
lycopodiopsida 2y ago
Teslas are still quite cheap - VW's also historically have had problems with infotainment. The ones which are good (ID.7, BMW i4) are also more expensive - although arguably they are much better cars than Tesla in most areas. But, if I would look for an electric car in Tesla segment I would look into Hyundai Ionic 5/6 or Kia EV6 - they are in general great cars, which have proper service networks and will be around for years, what sets them apart from a chinese tesla-killer du jour.