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Any such argument needs to accurately account for the relative ease of recycling lithium ion batteries, and the existence of batteries with significantly longer
by hackerlight 2y ago
Any such argument needs to accurately account for the relative ease of recycling lithium ion batteries, and the existence of batteries with significantly longer lifespans like iron air, compressed air (eg Hydroster) and pumped hydro
- DeathArrow 2y agoWhat is the cost of recycling lithium ion, how long it takes? How much "iron air, compressed air (eg Hydroster) and pumped hydro" does cost?
- sofixa 2y ago> relative ease of recycling lithium ion batteries It's so easy there are no actual working recycling facilities for lithium ion facilities. Multiple projects to do so, including two only in Sweden, but nothing in operation. So maybe it's not economically viable?
- epistasis 2y agoThere are functioning recycling facilities, the primary problem is the lack of input batteries to be recycled. Right now the input is mostly defective batteries from production lines. See for example Redwood Materials: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-04-18/redwood-material-s-nevada-ev-battery-recycling-facility-attempts-to-rival-china?leadSource=reddit_wall https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-04-18/redwood-m... Given the expense of shipping materials long distances, it's quite likely that recycling will be far cheaper than processing from freshly obtained materials. But it remains to be seen what innovations will happen in the mining space or in the recycling space to change that balance.