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What was even the point of faking the DRK invoice? How does that in any way mean the item is real? If it’s just some charity sale, I don’t think the item would

What was even the point of faking the DRK invoice? How does that in any way mean the item is real? If it’s just some charity sale, I don’t think the item would be authenticated

s0rce 2y ago
This is what I thought, its not like a receipt from Sotheby's.
KerrAvon 2y ago
It’s an attempt to create plausible deniability — “I bought it from someone else who said it was real.” The problem being that no one would think such a thing was valuable back in 2001; Apple was in much better shape than in the mid-90’s, but it wasn’t that far from Dell suggesting they shut down the company. ebay really should yank this person’s account.
- yumong 2y ago
  They bought it for 3000 DM and then sell it for less than half that price over 20 years later?
  - mewpmewp2 2y ago
    They have trouble supporting their family after Covid19 happened and they lost their job. Please have some empathy.
    - yumong 2y ago
      Do we have aby indication that that's true? They are trying (and apparently succeeded) to sell something that's quite obviously fake. Whatever else they claim should be viewed in the light of that lie.
      - samtheprogram 2y ago
        GP was being sarcastic. It’s indeed a part of a sob story meant to dissuade potential buyers from looking over things too deeply.
austhrow743 2y ago
Apple was a far smaller, less significant company in 2001. Much less chance that someone would go to the effort to make a fake employee 10 badge back then.
- callalex 2y ago
  Calling Apple small and insignificant in 2001 is just…not factually accurate. As someone who lived through that time I don’t really know what the most useful citation to provide you would be. If you knew what a computer was, you knew what Apple was many times over, and how they were the revolutionary™ brand even back then. For goodness sake, 2001 is post-iMac by several years/generations.
  - austhrow743 2y ago
    [flagged]
  - justsomehnguy 2y ago
    > For goodness sake, 2001 is post-iMac by several years/generations Oh come on, G3 is 1998, G4 is 2002. No other objections though. My favourite anecdote about that time is what Sex in the City had a MacBook, specifically PowerBook G3, as, well, a solid part of the story and even had a dedicated episode! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSZJXhOvBw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSZJXhOvBw
  - p_l 2y ago
    Apple's perceived status was bigger in USA than elsewhere. Don't know about Germany, but in Poland Mac at the time was pretty much pigeonholed into few artistic endeavours[1] or DTP - you were most likely to see something Mac related because a publishing company preparing ads made a screenshot on a mac when trying to make and showing webpage in a web browser. [1] And by 2001 was not that far from there being reasonable discussion whether you should not instead get an Atari ST if you wanted to do electronic music. (there was sorta ecosystem for ST as midi controller that was still surviving, at least in Poland, partially thanks to disco scene)
  - hennell 2y ago
kristopolous 2y ago
I'd imagine forgers get some enjoyment out of the craft. It's kinda like asking a painter to paint. Doesn't mean they'll be good, but they probably like doing it
- qup 2y ago
  And leveling up

What was even the point of faking the DRK invoice? How does that in any way mean the item is real? If it’s just some charity sale, I don’t think the item would be authenticated

s0rce 2y ago

This is what I thought, its not like a receipt from Sotheby's.

KerrAvon 2y ago

It’s an attempt to create plausible deniability — “I bought it from someone else who said it was real.” The problem being that no one would think such a thing was valuable back in 2001; Apple was in much better shape than in the mid-90’s, but it wasn’t that far from Dell suggesting they shut down the company. ebay really should yank this person’s account.

yumong 2y ago
They bought it for 3000 DM and then sell it for less than half that price over 20 years later?
- mewpmewp2 2y ago
  They have trouble supporting their family after Covid19 happened and they lost their job. Please have some empathy.
  - yumong 2y ago
    Do we have aby indication that that's true? They are trying (and apparently succeeded) to sell something that's quite obviously fake. Whatever else they claim should be viewed in the light of that lie.
    - samtheprogram 2y ago
      GP was being sarcastic. It’s indeed a part of a sob story meant to dissuade potential buyers from looking over things too deeply.

austhrow743 2y ago

Apple was a far smaller, less significant company in 2001. Much less chance that someone would go to the effort to make a fake employee 10 badge back then.

callalex 2y ago
Calling Apple small and insignificant in 2001 is just…not factually accurate. As someone who lived through that time I don’t really know what the most useful citation to provide you would be. If you knew what a computer was, you knew what Apple was many times over, and how they were the revolutionary™ brand even back then. For goodness sake, 2001 is post-iMac by several years/generations.
- austhrow743 2y ago
  [flagged]
- justsomehnguy 2y ago
  > For goodness sake, 2001 is post-iMac by several years/generations Oh come on, G3 is 1998, G4 is 2002. No other objections though. My favourite anecdote about that time is what Sex in the City had a MacBook, specifically PowerBook G3, as, well, a solid part of the story and even had a dedicated episode! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSZJXhOvBw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSZJXhOvBw
- p_l 2y ago
  Apple's perceived status was bigger in USA than elsewhere. Don't know about Germany, but in Poland Mac at the time was pretty much pigeonholed into few artistic endeavours[1] or DTP - you were most likely to see something Mac related because a publishing company preparing ads made a screenshot on a mac when trying to make and showing webpage in a web browser. [1] And by 2001 was not that far from there being reasonable discussion whether you should not instead get an Atari ST if you wanted to do electronic music. (there was sorta ecosystem for ST as midi controller that was still surviving, at least in Poland, partially thanks to disco scene)
- hennell 2y ago

kristopolous 2y ago

I'd imagine forgers get some enjoyment out of the craft. It's kinda like asking a painter to paint. Doesn't mean they'll be good, but they probably like doing it

qup 2y ago
And leveling up