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You sneakily jump from "victim is trusting" to "victim is powerless" Yes the victim is trusting because he probably won't think to authenticate the fake. The

You sneakily jump from "victim is trusting" to "victim is powerless" Yes the victim is trusting because he probably won't think to authenticate the fake. The victim is not powerless, actually. the victim has all the power to get money back. many stories how very easy to get a transaction reversed with paypal/ebay and leave the seller holding the bag, even if the seller is legit.

gosub100 2y ago
eBay sneakily allows the listing to be posted in the first place, even though they have access to the same information as the rest of us. They trust that there will always be a greater fool, they trust that they can claim "we didn't know! you assume the risk when you buy this stuff, we're just a third party ", again, SV shenanigans. Not innovation or even an honest business.
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
  eBay allows sellers to offer all sorts of fake and illegal shit because it's profitable and most people don't know the difference. There are tons of pirated games and software being sold as original "electronic downloads". And where else would stolen items be sold, including carrier- and Apple-blacklisted iPhones that cannot be activated?
nullc 2y ago
> The victim is not powerless, actually. the victim has all the power to get money back. many stories how very easy to get a transaction reversed with paypal/ebay and leave the seller holding the bag, even if the seller is legit. Ebay's policies have substantially reversed from where they were in the past and the scammer's know it. Make sure to always pay for ebay with a credit card to be confident that you can reverse fraudulent transactions.
- amatecha 2y ago
  I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure your eBay and PayPal accounts will get banned if you chargeback a transaction.
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  - nullc 2y ago
    I've performed a very large chargeback against eBay without any ban. YMMV.
- throwaway290 2y ago
  Fun times...

gosub100 2y ago

eBay sneakily allows the listing to be posted in the first place, even though they have access to the same information as the rest of us. They trust that there will always be a greater fool, they trust that they can claim "we didn't know! you assume the risk when you buy this stuff, we're just a third party ", again, SV shenanigans. Not innovation or even an honest business.

hi-v-rocknroll 2y ago
eBay allows sellers to offer all sorts of fake and illegal shit because it's profitable and most people don't know the difference. There are tons of pirated games and software being sold as original "electronic downloads". And where else would stolen items be sold, including carrier- and Apple-blacklisted iPhones that cannot be activated?

nullc 2y ago

> The victim is not powerless, actually. the victim has all the power to get money back. many stories how very easy to get a transaction reversed with paypal/ebay and leave the seller holding the bag, even if the seller is legit. Ebay's policies have substantially reversed from where they were in the past and the scammer's know it. Make sure to always pay for ebay with a credit card to be confident that you can reverse fraudulent transactions.

amatecha 2y ago
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure your eBay and PayPal accounts will get banned if you chargeback a transaction.
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- nullc 2y ago
  I've performed a very large chargeback against eBay without any ban. YMMV.
throwaway290 2y ago
Fun times...