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I will ask again: The corporate data in the cloud? Sells, relationships, confidential information. I am crazy, or the world is getting ridiculous? First killing

by nbzso 2y ago

I will ask again: The corporate data in the cloud? Sells, relationships, confidential information. I am crazy, or the world is getting ridiculous? First killing copyright. Now what? Privacy? Security?

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jonas21 2y ago
Huh? Almost everyone stores corporate data in the cloud and has for years.
- nbzso 2y ago
  So I am the only one stupid enough to have a private cloud? And the biggest and most successful corporations have trusted their intellectual property to Microsoft and Google? Boy, I am living under the rock. It is time to break all the walls. Right?
  - cloudking 2y ago
    Microsoft and Google have thousands of security engineers focused on protecting your data.
    - milemi 2y ago
      Even from you https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/may/09/unisuper-google-cloud-issue-account-access https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/may/...
    - cooper_ganglia 2y ago
      Oh, well in that case, they can access whatever data they'd like!
    - neffy 2y ago
      This would be the same Microsoft that can´t explain to the US State Department how there was a golden key floating around that allowed their email to be hacked? https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/17/microsoft-lost-keys-government-hacked/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/17/microsoft-lost-keys-govern...
  - throwaway98797 2y ago
    if it’s not hard for you why change? if it is, maybe time to reconsider.
  - a_wild_dandan 2y ago
    People make different decisions due to different preferences. There’s no need for melodramatic character judgements here, relax lol. You’re not stupid. People who chose differently aren’t either.
  - mewpmewp2 2y ago
    The calculation considers potential financial damage from having a cloud based security issue and most will find that the financial damage * risk < efficiency gains from just using cloud where everything is handled for you and you can just focus on your work.
  - vikramkr 2y ago
    Uhh, I guess yes? There's a reason that pretty much the entire internet goes down every time AWS has an outage lol.
- threeseed 2y ago
  Most enterprises still have their core systems either on-premise on in private clouds. And the trend has been towards standardising on Kubernetes to allow for the hybrid model to work.
wddkcs 2y ago
Privacy has always been dead. Idk why people love it's corpse so much.
VWWHFSfQ 2y ago
Microsoft already has everyone's corporate data. Always has.
jwrallie 2y ago
My guess is that most people making the decision to use ChatGPT on confidential data are low level employees looking to reduce their workload, and their bosses are happier with the improved performance (with the same salary). Going on a tangent, the other day a friend of mine was explaining how he uses Google Drive to copy files from an iPad to a Windows laptop. He is trying hard to make sure three letter agencies have an extra copy of his data, just in case.
meowkit 2y ago
This is why Confidential VMs have been a cloud priority. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/confidential-computing/confidential-vm-overview https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/confidential-computi... https://cloud.google.com/confidential-computing/confidential-vm/docs/confidential-vm-overview https://cloud.google.com/confidential-computing/confidential... Hypervisor cannot read its guests data.
- skissane 2y ago
  What happens if there is a warrant or subpoena? Is there some kind of "backdoor" to enable the cloud provider to grant law enforcement/intelligence/etc access? Or not? From what I understand, theoretically with something like AMD SEV it could be configured so no such "backdoor" exists. However, is it actually set up that way in practice?

by nbzso 2y ago

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jonas21 2y ago

Huh? Almost everyone stores corporate data in the cloud and has for years.

nbzso 2y ago
So I am the only one stupid enough to have a private cloud? And the biggest and most successful corporations have trusted their intellectual property to Microsoft and Google? Boy, I am living under the rock. It is time to break all the walls. Right?
- cloudking 2y ago
  Microsoft and Google have thousands of security engineers focused on protecting your data.
  - milemi 2y ago
    Even from you https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/may/09/unisuper-google-cloud-issue-account-access https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/may/...
  - cooper_ganglia 2y ago
    Oh, well in that case, they can access whatever data they'd like!
  - neffy 2y ago
    This would be the same Microsoft that can´t explain to the US State Department how there was a golden key floating around that allowed their email to be hacked? https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/17/microsoft-lost-keys-government-hacked/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/17/microsoft-lost-keys-govern...
- throwaway98797 2y ago
  if it’s not hard for you why change? if it is, maybe time to reconsider.
- a_wild_dandan 2y ago
  People make different decisions due to different preferences. There’s no need for melodramatic character judgements here, relax lol. You’re not stupid. People who chose differently aren’t either.
- mewpmewp2 2y ago
  The calculation considers potential financial damage from having a cloud based security issue and most will find that the financial damage * risk < efficiency gains from just using cloud where everything is handled for you and you can just focus on your work.
- vikramkr 2y ago
  Uhh, I guess yes? There's a reason that pretty much the entire internet goes down every time AWS has an outage lol.
threeseed 2y ago
Most enterprises still have their core systems either on-premise on in private clouds. And the trend has been towards standardising on Kubernetes to allow for the hybrid model to work.

wddkcs 2y ago

Privacy has always been dead. Idk why people love it's corpse so much.

VWWHFSfQ 2y ago

Microsoft already has everyone's corporate data. Always has.

jwrallie 2y ago

My guess is that most people making the decision to use ChatGPT on confidential data are low level employees looking to reduce their workload, and their bosses are happier with the improved performance (with the same salary). Going on a tangent, the other day a friend of mine was explaining how he uses Google Drive to copy files from an iPad to a Windows laptop. He is trying hard to make sure three letter agencies have an extra copy of his data, just in case.

meowkit 2y ago

This is why Confidential VMs have been a cloud priority. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/confidential-computing/confidential-vm-overview https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/confidential-computi... https://cloud.google.com/confidential-computing/confidential-vm/docs/confidential-vm-overview https://cloud.google.com/confidential-computing/confidential... Hypervisor cannot read its guests data.

skissane 2y ago
What happens if there is a warrant or subpoena? Is there some kind of "backdoor" to enable the cloud provider to grant law enforcement/intelligence/etc access? Or not? From what I understand, theoretically with something like AMD SEV it could be configured so no such "backdoor" exists. However, is it actually set up that way in practice?