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Their OWN emissions? Wow...
by telepathy 2y ago
Their OWN emissions? Wow...
- christkv 2y agoThere is still the problem of recycling the blades. https://theconversation.com/wind-turbine-blades-inside-the-battle-to-overcome-their-waste-problem-217704#:~:text=Whereas%20most%20of%20a%20wind,dumped%20in%20landfill%20or%20incinerated https://theconversation.com/wind-turbine-blades-inside-the-b....
- xnx 2y agoWhy do blades need to be recycled? What's the harm in piling them up on empty land until someone finds use for them (or not)?
- vuln 2y agoCould take the same route with nuclear waste imho.
- hn_throwaway_99 2y agoExcept old turbine blades tend not to leak out and make surrounding land unlivable by humans.
- MetaWhirledPeas 2y agoThis not a battle between nuclear and wind. Why not use both? Nuclear has dangers (which people are learning to mitigate) but wind, solar, and geothermal cannot be used in every situation. When no better choice exists we should embrace nuclear.
- hn_throwaway_99 2y agoI wasn't arguing against nuclear. I was responding to the comment regarding "What's the harm in piling it up on empty land until someone finds use for it" as applying to nuclear waste. Regarding your point, though, I'm certainly no expert but I believe at this point people aren't investing in new nuclear capacity because they don't believe that long term it will be cost competitive with renewables + storage.
- tstrimple 2y agoWe have a profit based energy sector. Of course this is a battle between nuclear and wind. And nuclear has lost.
- heavyset_go 2y agoThat's basically what's happening with them besides the ones that are burned or buried. One potentially bad thing is that plastics degrade and leach into the environment over time.
- MetaWhirledPeas 2y agoIs it preferable to burn coal and natural gas then? I'm not saying you're wrong (you could be right) but let's not forget why we are pushing for renewable energy.
- heavyset_go 2y agoDefinitely better than burning coal. Doesn't mean we shouldn't look for ways to reduce or recycle waste products.
- CyanBird 2y agoThe blades could easily be cut and used as modern "sleek" housing, or games for kids in parks There is market for that I feel
- MetaWhirledPeas 2y agoWe need to be considering the impact of any big changes we make in regards to our energy. But the thing is, we already know the answers to most of these "but what about" questions and they've been answered time and time again, yet they keep being brought up and used in an effort to slow progress. Which is worse, the __________ caused by technology Z or the airborne carbon dioxide they prevent? THE CARBON DIOXIDE IS WORSE, most of the time. Can we at least start at a place of the carbon dioxide is worse and go from there? I'm not against listening to reason, I'm just against people looking for every reason not to change how we gain and consume our energy.
- mattmaroon 2y agoThis is actually why I tell people recycling is mostly bad. The impact of some plastic in the landfill is less than the extra carbon emissions.
- XorNot 2y agoI straight up do not care a about plastic use at all anymore. Specifically: provided the plastic is going to well-managed landfill, and not being washed into the oceans or waterways, then really, what is the problem? Once in landfill it's CO2 which won't end up in the atmosphere, or water, or really doing much of anything while it just sits there. And every bit of it is oil production which won't be burned.
- heavyset_go 2y ago> And every bit of it is oil production which won't be burned. Some plastics get incinerated, it isn't all sequestered in landfills.
- XorNot 2y ago> provided the plastic is going to well-managed landfill Hence this qualifier. In my region, my trash goes to landfill. I've been to landfill! It's a modern design with stabilized storage cells, you can see them excavating it as they expand.
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y agoWe do need to disassemble them and move them somewhere, so those costs should be included. Perhaps they should be made to where they can be broken down into sections and reused as durable seawall filler or as construction filler in levees or dams.
- ajuc 2y agoHow's the recycling of burned oil and coal going?
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y agoLet's start off with just the cleaning off vehicles and people merely to move tar sands sludge around the ground that goes everywhere.
- stephen_g 2y agoThis is basically an artificial concern. Waste from fossil fuel is massively more huge in scale - in my country we dump 12 million tonnes of toxic coal fly ash per year [1]. Wind turbine blades will never be anywhere near that order or magnitude… And that’s just the solid stuff you can see, not counting anything (like fine particulate matter, nitrous oxides, sulfur dioxide, etc.) put straight into the air burning coal, gas and oil… 1. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-10/coal-ash-has-become-one-of-australias-biggest-waste-problems/10886866 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-10/coal-ash-has-become-o...