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It's good to see Gruber trying to be a bit more classy in his handling of the talk show situation. Now if only we knew what "business reasons" him and Dan disag

It's good to see Gruber trying to be a bit more classy in his handling of the talk show situation. Now if only we knew what "business reasons" him and Dan disagreed on. I'm assuming Gruber wanted a larger cut of sponsor money or something, but who knows...

martingordon 14y ago
I have a feeling the "business reasons" had to do with non-sponsorship revenue shares. In particular, rev share from t-shirts may have been the last straw for Gruber, especially based on the t-shirt talk on the last 5by5 episode and Dan's blog post regarding t-shirts (http://blog.5by5.tv/2012/5/22/t-shirt-status-update http://blog.5by5.tv/2012/5/22/t-shirt-status-update) where he explicitly mentions that hosts will get 50% of the profits from their show's shirts.
- slantyyz 14y ago
  In the end, I don't think the "business reasons" really matter. Gruber was well within his rights to end the podcasting relationship if he was unhappy. It just would have been polite to the audience to give them a head's up.
- guan 14y ago
  Rampant speculation: there could also be disagreement over how revenue from “run of network” sponsorships, where 5by5 charges a fixed price for sponsorship of their most popular shows, is divided between the shows. I could imagine not being satisfied with whatever method 5by5 used to do measure and allocate this revenue share. For example, one show might have x% of listeners, and everyone might even agree on how to measure that (feed subscribers, downloads, live listeners, whatever), but the host of one show might feel those listeners are worth more to sponsors than other shows.
slantyyz 14y ago
After a minute of thought, I realized that maybe he's being classy now because he realizes that the podcast's audience is what allows him to command $5000/episode in sponsorships. When the breakup first happened, he might have taken the listeners for granted, which explains why instead of posting today's post a week or so ago, he chose to post some oblique passive aggressive entries instead. Once people started publicly announcing their "unsubscribes" in droves and leaving negative comments on iTunes, Gruber himself decided to sing a different tune.
- doe88 14y ago
  I don't know for his talk show or the page views of his website but I can tell you (even if it doesn't necessarily mean anything) his number of followers on Twitter increased of about 1000+ since the original break-up announce.

martingordon 14y ago

I have a feeling the "business reasons" had to do with non-sponsorship revenue shares. In particular, rev share from t-shirts may have been the last straw for Gruber, especially based on the t-shirt talk on the last 5by5 episode and Dan's blog post regarding t-shirts (http://blog.5by5.tv/2012/5/22/t-shirt-status-update http://blog.5by5.tv/2012/5/22/t-shirt-status-update) where he explicitly mentions that hosts will get 50% of the profits from their show's shirts.

slantyyz 14y ago
In the end, I don't think the "business reasons" really matter. Gruber was well within his rights to end the podcasting relationship if he was unhappy. It just would have been polite to the audience to give them a head's up.
guan 14y ago
Rampant speculation: there could also be disagreement over how revenue from “run of network” sponsorships, where 5by5 charges a fixed price for sponsorship of their most popular shows, is divided between the shows. I could imagine not being satisfied with whatever method 5by5 used to do measure and allocate this revenue share. For example, one show might have x% of listeners, and everyone might even agree on how to measure that (feed subscribers, downloads, live listeners, whatever), but the host of one show might feel those listeners are worth more to sponsors than other shows.

slantyyz 14y ago

After a minute of thought, I realized that maybe he's being classy now because he realizes that the podcast's audience is what allows him to command $5000/episode in sponsorships. When the breakup first happened, he might have taken the listeners for granted, which explains why instead of posting today's post a week or so ago, he chose to post some oblique passive aggressive entries instead. Once people started publicly announcing their "unsubscribes" in droves and leaving negative comments on iTunes, Gruber himself decided to sing a different tune.

doe88 14y ago
I don't know for his talk show or the page views of his website but I can tell you (even if it doesn't necessarily mean anything) his number of followers on Twitter increased of about 1000+ since the original break-up announce.