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I wonder what's the mechanism for having people not discuss crime as they see fit. Is it only the free press doing tabooing?

TheBlight 2y ago
Complaining about crime is right-coded so it could lead to social complications which incentivizes people to stay silent about it.
- talldayo 2y ago
  Gentrification is also a contributor to the problem but it's hard to tell rich people that without them getting mad and blaming someone/something else.
  - TheBlight 2y ago
    That may be true but I don't think it has much to do with the reluctance to discuss the issue (or to actively play down the importance of it when discussed.)
    - talldayo 2y ago
      The only solution for either side is to move away, and if the rich people refuse to pack up and leave the less fortunate sure as hell aren't going to buy themselves plane tickets and skedaddle. So it kinda makes sense why people downplay it when the only alternative to moving somewhere else is perpetuating false victimhood.
- thriftwy 2y ago
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  - TheBlight 2y ago
    I'm willing to give the mods the benefit of the doubt that this was flagged in the assumption it would turn into a low-signal mess but I don't agree with the decision given the comments so far don't seem particularly low value. People are discussing page design and data modeling issues. I think it's useful from a technical standpoint. Oh well.
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TMWNN 2y ago
>I wonder what's the mechanism for having people not discuss crime as they see fit. Is it only the free press doing tabooing? It's government and the press. From 2017: "BART Withholding Surveillance Videos Of Crime To Avoid 'Stereotypes'" <https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bart-withholding-surveillance-videos-of-crime-to-avoid-stereotypes/ https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bart-withholdin...> (And before you say "A-ha, this is proof that the press does not censor itself!", did you know of this specific case before today? How has this not been widely discussed in society for the past seven years?)
rvnx 2y ago
It could also be a very practical issue; if the city is known as having crime, it may deter some employees to come working here or they may defend more their right to work from home. When I went to San Francisco, I was very surprised by the difference between reality, and the picture that the company shared with me.

TheBlight 2y ago

Complaining about crime is right-coded so it could lead to social complications which incentivizes people to stay silent about it.

talldayo 2y ago
Gentrification is also a contributor to the problem but it's hard to tell rich people that without them getting mad and blaming someone/something else.
- TheBlight 2y ago
  That may be true but I don't think it has much to do with the reluctance to discuss the issue (or to actively play down the importance of it when discussed.)
  - talldayo 2y ago
    The only solution for either side is to move away, and if the rich people refuse to pack up and leave the less fortunate sure as hell aren't going to buy themselves plane tickets and skedaddle. So it kinda makes sense why people downplay it when the only alternative to moving somewhere else is perpetuating false victimhood.
thriftwy 2y ago
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- TheBlight 2y ago
  I'm willing to give the mods the benefit of the doubt that this was flagged in the assumption it would turn into a low-signal mess but I don't agree with the decision given the comments so far don't seem particularly low value. People are discussing page design and data modeling issues. I think it's useful from a technical standpoint. Oh well.

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TMWNN 2y ago

>I wonder what's the mechanism for having people not discuss crime as they see fit. Is it only the free press doing tabooing? It's government and the press. From 2017: "BART Withholding Surveillance Videos Of Crime To Avoid 'Stereotypes'" <https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bart-withholding-surveillance-videos-of-crime-to-avoid-stereotypes/ https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bart-withholdin...> (And before you say "A-ha, this is proof that the press does not censor itself!", did you know of this specific case before today? How has this not been widely discussed in society for the past seven years?)

rvnx 2y ago

It could also be a very practical issue; if the city is known as having crime, it may deter some employees to come working here or they may defend more their right to work from home. When I went to San Francisco, I was very surprised by the difference between reality, and the picture that the company shared with me.