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I know this is unpopular to say and people love to pile on, but I have been using it for the last few weeks and I am optimistic about it. I pay $100/month. Ri
by damon_c 2y ago
I know this is unpopular to say and people love to pile on, but I have been using it for the last few weeks and I am optimistic about it. I pay $100/month.
Right now, it works just about flawlessly on the freeway. If you turn it on when you are on the on-ramp, and turn it off when it delivers you to that first traffic light after you exit, it actually is maybe better than actually driving. It passes slower cars, it is way safer than I am at checking my blind spots. It uses the HOV lane at appropriate times. I enjoy letting it perform the chore of getting across 5 lanes of traffic in time for an exit much more than doing that myself.
For local driving, it is still not perfect enough. It WILL get you home safe... but it is more stressful having it drive than driving myself. It pauses awkwardly sometimes... it makes an occasional wrong turn. It handles traffic lights and stop signs reasonably well but overall it's like driving with someone who is just learning to drive. It's more stressful than I prefer my transportation to be.
That being said, I think in a couple of years it will stand as an incredible achievement. The driving behavior it exhibits is incredibly lifelike at times and it is really so close... like all engineering projects the last few percent is sometimes the hardest, but I can see it getting there.
Edge cases.
- throw9474 2y agoNeural networks are fundamentally bad at edge cases. It won't get better.
- mrguyorama 2y agoDriving is an AGI-complete task. It literally requires presumptive modelling of other human beings in order to be safe. This bullshit "uh let's just navigate as if every other car is on rails" approach will never produce the safety claimed by FSD proponents.
- dawnerd 2y agoAutopilot works better than FSD for me on the freeway. If I turn on FSD I get lots of phantom braking and pretty out of no where lane changes that I'd call pretty abrupt and dangerous. No where near worth 100 dollars a month.
- paxys 2y agoI don't doubt its freeway driving skills, but like every mainstream production car can do that right now. So what's the extra $100/mo for?
- rtp4me 2y agoWhat? Every car can automatically change lanes, automatically merge into traffic, automatically exit to an off-ramp, automatically go around a round-about, etc? I think there may be a language barrier here because most cars/trucks I see on the road cannot automatically do any of these things.
- paxys 2y agoYes to all of those. Adaptive cruise control. Lane change assist. Auto braking. Automatic exits. This stuff has been standard for many years now, and every major brand is touching L2/L3 autonomy. Manufacturers just don't market it as "autopilot" or "fully self driving", because that's not what it is.
- rtp4me 2y agoSorry - just bought a new Toyota RAV-4; it does not have auto-lane change, the ability to auto merge onto the highway, the ability to auto-stop at the stop-light, etc. It does have adaptive cruise control and the ability to stay inside the lines, but it absolutely will not automatically change lanes or exit off the freeway.
- joewadcan 2y agoNot true at all. Exits and switching lanes all require confirmation from the drivers in other cars, not in Teslas on FSD
- dzhiurgis 2y agoSome cars might have of them, but separately. Not integrated into full package.
- CyberDildonics 2y agoIf you're on the freeway and you forget to pay your bills does it crash?