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They're in Egypt, the builders would have been "Ancient Egyptians" regardless of whether that means dynastic Ancient Egyptians or a pre-dynastic "lost civilizat

They're in Egypt, the builders would have been "Ancient Egyptians" regardless of whether that means dynastic Ancient Egyptians or a pre-dynastic "lost civilization". That being said there are a lot of interesting unanswered questions, e.g. why are pyramids newer than the Giza complex less-sophisticated? The fact that we don't know how they are built tells you all of these are still questions completely unanswered by archeology.

dylan604 2y ago
Were there less laborers available after the Giza pyramids? Of course s/laborers/slaves/ would be implied. If the labor force was smaller later, would that contribute to less-sophisticated?
- mkl 2y ago
  > Of course s/laborers/slaves/ would be implied. Not if you want to be accurate: https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/were-the-egyptian-pyramids-built-by-slaves https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/were-the-egyptian-pyram..., https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/who-built-the-egyptian-pyramids-not-slaves https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/who-built-the-..., https://www.worldatlas.com/ancient-world/were-slaves-used-to-build-the-pyramids-debunking-a-long-standing-myth.html https://www.worldatlas.com/ancient-world/were-slaves-used-to...
pavlov 2y ago
Why is New York Penn Station so ugly and drab compared to Grand Central even though it’s newer? Even the style of decoration is entirely different and much richer on the older and larger building. Could it simply be a question of society’s priorities and resourcing? Nah. After all the Americans were a fairly primitive culture primarily known for hamburgers and baseball. Most likely Grand Central was built by aliens or an older Native American culture.
- philwelch 2y ago
  The obvious conclusion would be that Penn Station was built during a period of cultural decline, which turns out to be both true and interesting.
  - pavlov 2y ago
    Indeed. For some reason this obvious conclusion doesn't satisfy the pyramid theorists, even though ancient Egypt's many periods of cultural decline and later resurgence are well documented.
  - leetcrew 2y ago
    the economic case is more compelling in this example. grand central is still largely the same structure that was built in 1910 at the peak of rail's dominance. penn station was demolished and rebuilt to sell air rights during a sharp decline of intercity rail ridership. I guess demolishing an iconic building could itself be evidence for cultural decline, but stuff like TWA flight center was being built at the same time. the dollars followed the passengers.

dylan604 2y ago

Were there less laborers available after the Giza pyramids? Of course s/laborers/slaves/ would be implied. If the labor force was smaller later, would that contribute to less-sophisticated?

mkl 2y ago
> Of course s/laborers/slaves/ would be implied. Not if you want to be accurate: https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/were-the-egyptian-pyramids-built-by-slaves https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/were-the-egyptian-pyram..., https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/who-built-the-egyptian-pyramids-not-slaves https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/who-built-the-..., https://www.worldatlas.com/ancient-world/were-slaves-used-to-build-the-pyramids-debunking-a-long-standing-myth.html https://www.worldatlas.com/ancient-world/were-slaves-used-to...

pavlov 2y ago

Why is New York Penn Station so ugly and drab compared to Grand Central even though it’s newer? Even the style of decoration is entirely different and much richer on the older and larger building. Could it simply be a question of society’s priorities and resourcing? Nah. After all the Americans were a fairly primitive culture primarily known for hamburgers and baseball. Most likely Grand Central was built by aliens or an older Native American culture.

philwelch 2y ago
The obvious conclusion would be that Penn Station was built during a period of cultural decline, which turns out to be both true and interesting.
- pavlov 2y ago
  Indeed. For some reason this obvious conclusion doesn't satisfy the pyramid theorists, even though ancient Egypt's many periods of cultural decline and later resurgence are well documented.
- leetcrew 2y ago
  the economic case is more compelling in this example. grand central is still largely the same structure that was built in 1910 at the peak of rail's dominance. penn station was demolished and rebuilt to sell air rights during a sharp decline of intercity rail ridership. I guess demolishing an iconic building could itself be evidence for cultural decline, but stuff like TWA flight center was being built at the same time. the dollars followed the passengers.