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It is calling Israel "the so-called Jewish state" and 'Israel' what effectively means a claim that Jewish people do not have right for the state on their ancest
by genman 2y ago
It is calling Israel "the so-called Jewish state" and 'Israel' what effectively means a claim that Jewish people do not have right for the state on their ancestors land and genocide against them (like genocide on 7th October, or earlier intifadas) is somehow justified.
- CatWChainsaw 2y agoThe Palestinians currently living there had their own ancestors that also lived there. Do they not count?
- genman 2y agoRussia is right now trying its best to forcefully assimilate all the small nations it keeps occupying, because it is afraid that in one they have to give all of it back.
- CatWChainsaw 2y agoSince that has nothing to do with what came previously, I'll be 100% uncharitable and assume that's a big old No and you support IDF bombing hospitals and schools and aid convoys unless you explicitly indicate otherwise. Glad we had this little chat.
- genman 2y ago[flagged]
- wahnfrieden 2y agoComplete distortions and lies
- genman 2y agoThe history disagrees with this assessment.
- animuchan 2y agoSo your justification for their terrorism is, they're locals?
- CatWChainsaw 2y agoI didn't realize the entire population was terrorists because a fraction of them committed terrorism and the rest lived in close proximity, so I trust you'll be totally fine with Vietnam nuking the States for everything we, you and me obviously, put them through. And since you asked that question in bad faith now it's my turn. Is bombing hospitals, schools, and aid convoys terrorism, or is it terrorism unless it's the IDF doing it to Palestinians, specifically? Where's Daddy, animuchan?
- wahnfrieden 2y agoWhen supporters buy and repeat every Zaka lie that BBC, NYT etc launder even past being discredited even by Israeli papers like Haaretz, there’s not much hope in the back and forth
- animuchan 2y agoThe overwhelming majority of the population you're defending supports the killing of Israeli civilians. This is according to their own polls. The IDF, given the limited resources, comically unreliable allies, and the hostage situation, is doing a great job. You labeled your own argument to the contrary as being in bad faith because we both know that. :)
- CatWChainsaw 2y agoYour question was in bad faith so I responded in kind. Your argument is that it doesn't matter how many noncombatant Palestinians (or aid workers of the UN/etc) get killed because there is no other option and they hate the people killing them so they deserve it anyway, and my argument is, that's bullshit.
- racional 2y agoThe overwhelming majority of the population you're defending supports the killing of Israeli civilians. This is according to their own polls. False. The PCPSR polls (the only ones anyone is talking about) do show broad support for the statement that the Oct 7th attack was "correct". But overwhelmingly (91%) they do not believe that atrocities against civilians occurred during the attacks. 81 percent also said they did not watch videos published by international organizations showing atrocities, for a variety of reasons. Which is still troubling, of course. But the reality of what these people actually said is entirely different from what you're describing. Unfortunately some news outlets (such as the Times of Israel, AP) chose to present misleading characterizations of second poll in particular, which of course then got pasted all over social media. The IDF is doing a great job. Meanwhile there's plenty of denial going around as to atrocities committed by the IDF as well, of course. But this is a different topic.