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First, Mozilla's execs killed ff and made the organization into basically a subsidiary of Google, dependent on its support. Second, ff comes with Google as its

First, Mozilla's execs killed ff and made the organization into basically a subsidiary of Google, dependent on its support. Second, ff comes with Google as its default search - so that's going to suck. I will be happy for you to yell at me to use Firefox when you have fired Mozilla's execs, and dropped Pocket and the Google default search. Until then, I feel like you're not facing reality about what ff has become due to it's cooperation with Google.

sumeno 2y ago
> Second, ff comes with Google as its default search - so that's going to suck. I'm confident that if you can post on HN you can figure out how to change a default setting
- luqtas 2y ago
  i heard there's a lot of old timers here... who knows if they know how to deal with new tech
  - barfbagginus 2y ago
    I hear there are heckling assholes here too. They talk some shit, but never make a real point. Have you seen any around? Here's the deal. My elderly mom and dad are being eaten alive by software that takes advantage of their ignorance, and that needs to change. Mozilla's part of that, and they need to change. Google pays for the default setting because it matters Yes, it's so non-technical users will get stuck with Google But that's a problem for those users What's the problem? It's inaccessibility caused by corporate corruption. Innocent users get stuck with a increasingly bad search, for a few million bucks a year. Old people are very dear to me, and seeing them get taken advantage of on every digital platform is breaking my heart. I have to fight, for the sake of my parents and other old folks, if for no other reason. Perhaps you feel me, perhaps you don't. Thanks for your comment, it made me think of why I care about this. Hope you have a nice day, and think of your own old peeps, and get to give them some love!
    - luqtas 2y ago
      i feel for you! i tried to lure my parents towards the Matrix protocol but apparently having a connection error each other month is unacceptable... we returned to the well working Whatsapp! i wonder what would be their opinions if i took their Android devices and substituted all their apps for FOSS alternatives & an un-googled Lineage but yeah, i think fighthing for what's right, specially when you can; is important... but the vast majority will just use what's the most convenient & shutdown all the doors with rude comments, despite if the are about freedom
- barfbagginus 2y ago
  Sure I can change the default setting. And I can also dog Mozilla for accepting the money. And I can also dog anyone who thinks they did nothing wrong. Are you in the final category? Want to debate about it? I invite you to make an opening position statement.

sumeno 2y ago

> Second, ff comes with Google as its default search - so that's going to suck. I'm confident that if you can post on HN you can figure out how to change a default setting

luqtas 2y ago
i heard there's a lot of old timers here... who knows if they know how to deal with new tech
- barfbagginus 2y ago
  I hear there are heckling assholes here too. They talk some shit, but never make a real point. Have you seen any around? Here's the deal. My elderly mom and dad are being eaten alive by software that takes advantage of their ignorance, and that needs to change. Mozilla's part of that, and they need to change. Google pays for the default setting because it matters Yes, it's so non-technical users will get stuck with Google But that's a problem for those users What's the problem? It's inaccessibility caused by corporate corruption. Innocent users get stuck with a increasingly bad search, for a few million bucks a year. Old people are very dear to me, and seeing them get taken advantage of on every digital platform is breaking my heart. I have to fight, for the sake of my parents and other old folks, if for no other reason. Perhaps you feel me, perhaps you don't. Thanks for your comment, it made me think of why I care about this. Hope you have a nice day, and think of your own old peeps, and get to give them some love!
  - luqtas 2y ago
    i feel for you! i tried to lure my parents towards the Matrix protocol but apparently having a connection error each other month is unacceptable... we returned to the well working Whatsapp! i wonder what would be their opinions if i took their Android devices and substituted all their apps for FOSS alternatives & an un-googled Lineage but yeah, i think fighthing for what's right, specially when you can; is important... but the vast majority will just use what's the most convenient & shutdown all the doors with rude comments, despite if the are about freedom
barfbagginus 2y ago
Sure I can change the default setting. And I can also dog Mozilla for accepting the money. And I can also dog anyone who thinks they did nothing wrong. Are you in the final category? Want to debate about it? I invite you to make an opening position statement.