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> doesn't have a hell https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzoah_Rotachat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzoah_Rotachat
by willcipriano 2y ago
> doesn't have a hell
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzoah_Rotachat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzoah_Rotachat
- sterlind 2y agoI concede, though I think this is a later innovation of the Rabbinate; Gehenna is an actual place, an ancient garbage dump, on the outskirts of Jerusalem. It is not referenced as a spiritual plane in the Torah like the Lake of Fire (Hell) in Christianity or Islam. It likely gained that interpretation under the influence of Platonism. I am not (yet) a Jew so I can't speak authoritatively to Jewish eschatology, but I think there's more room for give and take in the Talmud and Zohar (where Gehinnom is referenced) as it's the recorded wisdom of rabbis rather than Law itself. This is just my understanding based on my studies thus far.
- willcipriano 2y agoI once heard a Rabbi explain how Judaism has no hell and then later he described how Jesus is boiling in excrement. It's a pretty common idea, I don't understand why people have it but most people seem to. It doesn't have hell for gentiles I guess? That's the best argument I see, like they are answering from my perspective when I ask.
- sterlind 2y agoThat Jesus story comes from Rabbi Onkelos, a Roman convert who performed necromancy (!) to summon Jesus and ask questions about the afterlife. Apparently Gehinnom as described by the conjured spirit was indeed reserved for Jews who sinned; I think the unrighteous gentiles (not the Noahide) simply stop existing. They also got Shabbat and Yom Kippur off (I wonder if the summoning ate into Yeshua's break time.) The Talmud is fascinating but pretty wacky.