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Charging using the truck would require running the truck all day -- probably not an acceptable alternative. Consuming 2-10 Kw from a 200 Kw engine would be so i

Charging using the truck would require running the truck all day -- probably not an acceptable alternative. Consuming 2-10 Kw from a 200 Kw engine would be so inefficient that it'd be too expensive anyways. Instead you'd need to run a generator all day charging batteries. A fast charging, high capacity tool battery takes at least 60 minutes to charge. In high power applications (lawn mower, leaf blower, chainsaw, etc) those batteries might be emptied in a little as 15 minutes. A better alternative might be corded 240v tools running directly off the generator for high-power applications. 120v tools are limited to 2-3HP which doesn't compare well to gas engines.

actionfromafar 2y ago
Hybrid truck?
- travisb 2y ago
  If you had a serial plug-in hybrid with a 20+Kwh battery which also supported exporting 120vac, that would work. AFAIK such a vehicle doesn't exist in North America yet and might not exist anywhere globally. You start stacking energy efficiency losses (engine -> charger -> battery -> inverter -> charger -> battery -> motor) and economic losses (expensive serial hybrid, higher than expected vehicle battery cycles, still need a large number of tool batteries which wear out in about a year, etc.) though.
  - actionfromafar 2y ago
    The Mitsubishi Outlander is not exactly a truck but it's close. 120 VAC: https://youtu.be/dIZsACfqB-E?t=46 https://youtu.be/dIZsACfqB-E?t=46 and it has 20kWh battery: https://carbuzz.com/news/2023-mitsubishi-outlander-phev-has-more-power-more-range-and-better-value/ https://carbuzz.com/news/2023-mitsubishi-outlander-phev-has-... I feel cars have been stuck in boring mode for 2 decades, but now with zany stuff like power outlets and such, they are getting more interesting.
philbin 2y ago
This is nuts! Instead buy 120-volt and 240-volt leaf blowers. BTW 2-3 horsepower is plenty (probably too much) for one man. We use water hoses w/o bitching too much. We could used corded leafblowers tomorrow. Or butch up, get rakes and get in shape: cleaner air, more exercise and longer hours for the lawn laborers.

actionfromafar 2y ago

Hybrid truck?

travisb 2y ago
If you had a serial plug-in hybrid with a 20+Kwh battery which also supported exporting 120vac, that would work. AFAIK such a vehicle doesn't exist in North America yet and might not exist anywhere globally. You start stacking energy efficiency losses (engine -> charger -> battery -> inverter -> charger -> battery -> motor) and economic losses (expensive serial hybrid, higher than expected vehicle battery cycles, still need a large number of tool batteries which wear out in about a year, etc.) though.
- actionfromafar 2y ago
  The Mitsubishi Outlander is not exactly a truck but it's close. 120 VAC: https://youtu.be/dIZsACfqB-E?t=46 https://youtu.be/dIZsACfqB-E?t=46 and it has 20kWh battery: https://carbuzz.com/news/2023-mitsubishi-outlander-phev-has-more-power-more-range-and-better-value/ https://carbuzz.com/news/2023-mitsubishi-outlander-phev-has-... I feel cars have been stuck in boring mode for 2 decades, but now with zany stuff like power outlets and such, they are getting more interesting.

philbin 2y ago

This is nuts! Instead buy 120-volt and 240-volt leaf blowers. BTW 2-3 horsepower is plenty (probably too much) for one man. We use water hoses w/o bitching too much. We could used corded leafblowers tomorrow. Or butch up, get rakes and get in shape: cleaner air, more exercise and longer hours for the lawn laborers.