Did I say it's a "counter-example"? Both are operational dumpster fires. I obviously brought it up in a negative tone with the words "even" and "somehow". Utopi

Did I say it's a "counter-example"? Both are operational dumpster fires. I obviously brought it up in a negative tone with the words "even" and "somehow". Utopia's a business, too. Why are you defending them? Do you even live here? They even did basically this same thing to their cities years back, which you'd know if you did.