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You dont notice them when they work as intended, but when something odd or annoying happens it leads quickly to disappointment. For me its car's lane assistant

by jajko 2y ago

You dont notice them when they work as intended, but when something odd or annoying happens it leads quickly to disappointment. For me its car's lane assistant, interfering with driving is big no for me. Asked my father to turn it off on their new mazda 3 too, 99% ok behavior is simply too low, even 99.9% would be.

kolp 2y ago
Lane assistance is fine, if it can be permanently disabled. But I've rented cars where it seemed to have been hard coded to default = ON for each trip. Every time I started the car, I had to go into the car config (great fun on a rental with a different GUI each time) and disable it before driving. Otherwise, in city driving, it's like some paranoid front seat passenger grabs the wheel every 30 seconds.
- jajko 2y ago
  Its a lawsuit waiting to happen. Yes it can be disabled on normal cars, but on rentals not consistently, they do sometimes lock down settings menus - driving with it around narrow Sicily roads was not pleasant at all, outright dangerous in few situations.
mrandish 2y ago
Oh yes. This is a huge one for me. My wife bought a luxury car that's loaded with these new driving "assist" features and they're both annoying and extremely distracting to the driver. Worse, when they unexpectedly grab the wheel while I'm actively trying to steer, it's caused me to swerve while fighting to correct it. Fortunately no road incidents yet but these are clear safety issues. If it were a commercial aircraft instead of a car, pilots would be required to report them as incidents. Of course, I always turn these stupid features off but, inexplicably, my wife likes them and keeps turning them back on. So when I happen to drive that car it continues to be a nasty surprise until I remember to turn it off. This also makes a separate UX failure even worse. Settings like seat position, enter/exit behavior, navigation and even entertainment options are stored and recalled in per-driver settings. These per driver settings can also be linked to each key fob. She has her fob and I have mine. Very nice - except these damn driver "assist" features are NOT stored in per-driver settings like they obviously should be! Damn it, car UX designers - all user options should be stored per driver. It's a few KB for bit flags and single-byte values, it's not like we don't have the storage these days.

by jajko 2y ago

kolp 2y ago

Lane assistance is fine, if it can be permanently disabled. But I've rented cars where it seemed to have been hard coded to default = ON for each trip. Every time I started the car, I had to go into the car config (great fun on a rental with a different GUI each time) and disable it before driving. Otherwise, in city driving, it's like some paranoid front seat passenger grabs the wheel every 30 seconds.

jajko 2y ago
Its a lawsuit waiting to happen. Yes it can be disabled on normal cars, but on rentals not consistently, they do sometimes lock down settings menus - driving with it around narrow Sicily roads was not pleasant at all, outright dangerous in few situations.

mrandish 2y ago

Oh yes. This is a huge one for me. My wife bought a luxury car that's loaded with these new driving "assist" features and they're both annoying and extremely distracting to the driver. Worse, when they unexpectedly grab the wheel while I'm actively trying to steer, it's caused me to swerve while fighting to correct it. Fortunately no road incidents yet but these are clear safety issues. If it were a commercial aircraft instead of a car, pilots would be required to report them as incidents. Of course, I always turn these stupid features off but, inexplicably, my wife likes them and keeps turning them back on. So when I happen to drive that car it continues to be a nasty surprise until I remember to turn it off. This also makes a separate UX failure even worse. Settings like seat position, enter/exit behavior, navigation and even entertainment options are stored and recalled in per-driver settings. These per driver settings can also be linked to each key fob. She has her fob and I have mine. Very nice - except these damn driver "assist" features are NOT stored in per-driver settings like they obviously should be! Damn it, car UX designers - all user options should be stored per driver. It's a few KB for bit flags and single-byte values, it's not like we don't have the storage these days.