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This is such a misleadingly narrow headline. Utopia's a decade old and has been a mess from the business side pretty much the entire time. Even Google fiber in

This is such a misleadingly narrow headline. Utopia's a decade old and has been a mess from the business side pretty much the entire time. Even Google fiber in Provo's somehow giving better rollout service than they are. I was excited when it was announced as a teen but it's been a long road of failing to live up to expectations for all but a tiny fraction of our residents in the rich parts of our cities. And it's supposed to be a public-good program!

fooey 2y ago
Provo built a municipal fiber network and then sold it to Google for one dollar, so I'm not sure that's a great counter example > Provo taxpayers still will have to make $3.3 million in bond payments on the system each year for the next 12 years, even though Google will own the network.
- Phiwise_ 2y ago
  Did I say it's a "counter-example"? Both are operational dumpster fires. I obviously brought it up in a negative tone with the words "even" and "somehow". Utopia's a business, too. Why are you defending them? Do you even live here? They even did basically this same thing to their cities years back, which you'd know if you did.
buffington 2y ago
UTOPIA frustrates me. I live in a part of Utah where Xfinity is the only gigabit option. Despite a huge number of the UTOPIA providers claiming to serve my area, none of them actually do. My home is in a stupid weird bandwidth dead zone, with 10Gbps options available all around me. The house across the street from me has Google Fiber, yet Google Fiber won't install it at mine a mere 50ft away. I'd be a lot more upset if my Xfinity connection wasn't rock solid. It provides the exact advertised speeds, and in the 5 years I've had it, it's gone down maybe once. Still, I want 10Gbps. It's maddening.
- rasz 2y ago
  You are this https://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipment-rental/earth-moving/trenchers/trenchless-boring-tools/ https://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipment-rental/earth-moving... away from fast internet

fooey 2y ago

Provo built a municipal fiber network and then sold it to Google for one dollar, so I'm not sure that's a great counter example > Provo taxpayers still will have to make $3.3 million in bond payments on the system each year for the next 12 years, even though Google will own the network.

Phiwise_ 2y ago
Did I say it's a "counter-example"? Both are operational dumpster fires. I obviously brought it up in a negative tone with the words "even" and "somehow". Utopia's a business, too. Why are you defending them? Do you even live here? They even did basically this same thing to their cities years back, which you'd know if you did.

buffington 2y ago

UTOPIA frustrates me. I live in a part of Utah where Xfinity is the only gigabit option. Despite a huge number of the UTOPIA providers claiming to serve my area, none of them actually do. My home is in a stupid weird bandwidth dead zone, with 10Gbps options available all around me. The house across the street from me has Google Fiber, yet Google Fiber won't install it at mine a mere 50ft away. I'd be a lot more upset if my Xfinity connection wasn't rock solid. It provides the exact advertised speeds, and in the 5 years I've had it, it's gone down maybe once. Still, I want 10Gbps. It's maddening.

rasz 2y ago
You are this https://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipment-rental/earth-moving/trenchers/trenchless-boring-tools/ https://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipment-rental/earth-moving... away from fast internet