> No, farmers aren't living in Houston, Phoenix or Sunnyvale. That's not even true. They live right next to it. I pulled up Houston on Google Maps and there wa

> No, farmers aren't living in Houston, Phoenix or Sunnyvale. That's not even true. They live right next to it. I pulled up Houston on Google Maps and there was an ad for "Dewberry Farm" right there. The center of Houston is dense city, surrounded by a ring of suburb, surrounded by a ring of farms. Are we not looking at the same map? (Phoenix doesn't count, it's a desert, no farms there.) A get together doesn't count in terms of dishes, I'm talking about day to day. Every person I've visited in a city uses far more disposable stuff that the suburban person I've visited. I've lived in all kinds of places (not farm though), and I've found suburban to be the least wasteful, and cities to be the most wasteful. Rural is hard to categorize - they tend to be more self sufficient.