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American, close enough. Our empire hopes at least.

all2 2y ago
I almost wish we had actual imperial ambition instead of all the cloak and daggers garbage the CIA gets up to. At least there would be economic stability and decent education and infra in annexed countries.
- runlaszlorun 2y ago
  There prob would be a lot of popular support. And there is an election coming up. Personally, I was thinking we could privatize the entire military in one fell swoop. And then let them sell their services to various foreign nations. Turn that one big cost center into a revenue opp. No way that could possibly go wrong… But if America does get dragged into any more conflicts, can we make it a home game this time? You know… ‘fight em over here so we dont have to fight em over there’. Sucks always being the away team.
  - Qwertious 2y ago
    >Personally, I was thinking we could privatize the entire military in one fell swoop. And then let them sell their services to various foreign nations. Turn that one big cost center into a revenue opp. The USA gets a whooole lot of soft power from its military hegemony, it's already paying for itself in the form of better trade deals - for instance, Taiwan basically only exists because of US hegemony, and they have better chips than the US does, and they don't sell their best outside of NATO. The US is doomed to always be the away-team - they can't stay neutral because wars involve blocking the trade of their trading partner, which includes US merchant ships. They won't have a war on the home front, because they have the two biggest oceans in the world to make such an invasion a logistical impossibility (and the US navy is giant to enforce that).
    - padjo 2y ago
      Military hegemony is basically the definition of hard power
    - etiennebausson 2y ago
      > The USA gets a whooole lot of soft power from its military hegemony Definition of soft-power: Soft power is the ability to co-opt rather than coerce (in contrast with hard power). * looks up list of foreign intervention by the US over the last 60 years * I think you might want to rethink your argument.
    - jobs_throwaway 2y ago
      > They won't have a war on the home front Yup. Enormous geographical advantages + a population armed to the teeth (relatively speaking) means the US is as close to impenetrable as is possible
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- neverokay 2y ago
  You want like a sadistic marshal plan? So, we take your shit. Then we define your morality, then set the benchmarks and culture, and your ass better meet all that. And if you don’t, well we don’t wanna hear you say nigga no more Imperial means we run you for a couple hundred years. I guess some people don’t get it. You pray to our god, for the foreseeable feature. Behold South America, what god do they pray to? The fuck we said to pray to. That’s imperial shit. No magical mother in the sky. I just don’t like being polite no more, where this war at.
  - throwup238 2y ago
    I can't tell if these are the ravings of a madman or the intro to an Immortal Technique album.
    - neverokay 2y ago
      Ur just racist lol Your two options are caricatures
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all2 2y ago

I almost wish we had actual imperial ambition instead of all the cloak and daggers garbage the CIA gets up to. At least there would be economic stability and decent education and infra in annexed countries.

runlaszlorun 2y ago
There prob would be a lot of popular support. And there is an election coming up. Personally, I was thinking we could privatize the entire military in one fell swoop. And then let them sell their services to various foreign nations. Turn that one big cost center into a revenue opp. No way that could possibly go wrong… But if America does get dragged into any more conflicts, can we make it a home game this time? You know… ‘fight em over here so we dont have to fight em over there’. Sucks always being the away team.
- Qwertious 2y ago
  >Personally, I was thinking we could privatize the entire military in one fell swoop. And then let them sell their services to various foreign nations. Turn that one big cost center into a revenue opp. The USA gets a whooole lot of soft power from its military hegemony, it's already paying for itself in the form of better trade deals - for instance, Taiwan basically only exists because of US hegemony, and they have better chips than the US does, and they don't sell their best outside of NATO. The US is doomed to always be the away-team - they can't stay neutral because wars involve blocking the trade of their trading partner, which includes US merchant ships. They won't have a war on the home front, because they have the two biggest oceans in the world to make such an invasion a logistical impossibility (and the US navy is giant to enforce that).
  - padjo 2y ago
    Military hegemony is basically the definition of hard power
  - etiennebausson 2y ago
    > The USA gets a whooole lot of soft power from its military hegemony Definition of soft-power: Soft power is the ability to co-opt rather than coerce (in contrast with hard power). * looks up list of foreign intervention by the US over the last 60 years * I think you might want to rethink your argument.
  - jobs_throwaway 2y ago
    > They won't have a war on the home front Yup. Enormous geographical advantages + a population armed to the teeth (relatively speaking) means the US is as close to impenetrable as is possible
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neverokay 2y ago
You want like a sadistic marshal plan? So, we take your shit. Then we define your morality, then set the benchmarks and culture, and your ass better meet all that. And if you don’t, well we don’t wanna hear you say nigga no more Imperial means we run you for a couple hundred years. I guess some people don’t get it. You pray to our god, for the foreseeable feature. Behold South America, what god do they pray to? The fuck we said to pray to. That’s imperial shit. No magical mother in the sky. I just don’t like being polite no more, where this war at.
- throwup238 2y ago
  I can't tell if these are the ravings of a madman or the intro to an Immortal Technique album.
  - neverokay 2y ago
    Ur just racist lol Your two options are caricatures
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