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some function leftover from the csam / on device scan - because also deleted pictures are csam. Its a feature for the police. Sorry guys.

schaefer 2y ago
what hard evidence do you have to support this accusation? 1) You've accused the iphone users of having CSAM on their device, and 2) you've attributed a motive to Apple inc. as the root cause of the technical issue.
- megous 2y ago
  what hard evidence do you have that the parent post is meant seriously?
- theGeatZhopa 2y ago
  1) read it again without being aroused please 2) https://www.wired.com/story/apple-communication-safety-nude-detection/ https://www.wired.com/story/apple-communication-safety-nude-... they have some motives, obviously .. it's a technical issue, you're right.
legitster 2y ago
According to Apple, their CSAM only applies to iCloud and would only need the photo at the moment of uploaded https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Expanded_Protections_for_Children_Frequently_Asked_Questions.pdf https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Expanded_Protections_...
- theGeatZhopa 2y ago
  Yeah they retracted the plans to scan locally on device as I may remember. Somehow, I remember it as being reported exactly in that connection "csam & on device" before imgvideo-files are being sent and encrypted in messengers. Intercepting later can't be easily done.. They retracted and said after criticism "we do it on iCloud". Then a link to be found on goog or few comments further down, says, they wanted to do it on iCloud. But everyone is going rage mode. So they retracted and wanted to do it with more "privacy" on device.. and then, the link also say, they created an API to filter what for example kids should not see or send and app developers can use it. iCloud scanning is ok with me and my privacy advisor. There are bad guys out there.
  - waz0wski 2y ago
    Surely the corporation that built the on-device scanning and recognition that runs on your opaque little computer box to find pictures of your dog wouldn't lie or "accidentally" keep the csam scanning running on the device too? And certainly the corporation couldn't be be coerced by the government that's built the largest surveillance apparatus in human history to keep the csam feature running on billions of devices? Yes, the corporation can be trusted. /s
    - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
      Trust, but check too. Like in a relationship too :) The government / the law is the problem. The similar in China. And in Europe is planned: you have to make it possible that we read E2E encrypted messages, if a judge say so. Lol So it's not about the company(s) but rather about the forced compliance with laws

schaefer 2y ago

what hard evidence do you have to support this accusation? 1) You've accused the iphone users of having CSAM on their device, and 2) you've attributed a motive to Apple inc. as the root cause of the technical issue.

megous 2y ago
what hard evidence do you have that the parent post is meant seriously?
theGeatZhopa 2y ago
1) read it again without being aroused please 2) https://www.wired.com/story/apple-communication-safety-nude-detection/ https://www.wired.com/story/apple-communication-safety-nude-... they have some motives, obviously .. it's a technical issue, you're right.

legitster 2y ago

According to Apple, their CSAM only applies to iCloud and would only need the photo at the moment of uploaded https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Expanded_Protections_for_Children_Frequently_Asked_Questions.pdf https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Expanded_Protections_...

theGeatZhopa 2y ago
Yeah they retracted the plans to scan locally on device as I may remember. Somehow, I remember it as being reported exactly in that connection "csam & on device" before imgvideo-files are being sent and encrypted in messengers. Intercepting later can't be easily done.. They retracted and said after criticism "we do it on iCloud". Then a link to be found on goog or few comments further down, says, they wanted to do it on iCloud. But everyone is going rage mode. So they retracted and wanted to do it with more "privacy" on device.. and then, the link also say, they created an API to filter what for example kids should not see or send and app developers can use it. iCloud scanning is ok with me and my privacy advisor. There are bad guys out there.
- waz0wski 2y ago
  Surely the corporation that built the on-device scanning and recognition that runs on your opaque little computer box to find pictures of your dog wouldn't lie or "accidentally" keep the csam scanning running on the device too? And certainly the corporation couldn't be be coerced by the government that's built the largest surveillance apparatus in human history to keep the csam feature running on billions of devices? Yes, the corporation can be trusted. /s
  - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
    Trust, but check too. Like in a relationship too :) The government / the law is the problem. The similar in China. And in Europe is planned: you have to make it possible that we read E2E encrypted messages, if a judge say so. Lol So it's not about the company(s) but rather about the forced compliance with laws