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Shutting off nuclear power while commissioning new coal and gas plants is anything but being on the right track.
by kgabis 2y ago
Shutting off nuclear power while commissioning new coal and gas plants is anything but being on the right track.
- martin_a 2y agoNuclear reactors were EOL and not even their owners wanted to run them any longer. So please stop spreading your misleading take.
- Kuinox 2y agoYou ask to not spread misleading then immediatly spreading a politician lies. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/04/26/german-greens-lying-nuclear-power-safety-plant-shutdown/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/04/26/german-green...
- martin_a 2y agoI don't find a single, reliable German source for all of that fuss. That might make you think about it again...
- Kuinox 2y agoHere what I think about it again: You didn't read the article I sent, it show you don't care about what it says but you try to attack the article because you dislike what it say. The article state it's source is cicero, a... german magazine. https://www.cicero.de/innenpolitik/robert-habeck-akten-atomkraftwerke-kernkraftwerke-klage-akw-laufzeit-atomausstieg https://www.cicero.de/innenpolitik/robert-habeck-akten-atomk...
- martin_a 2y agoCicero is a well-known, "conservative" (at best) to political rather right-wing magazine. It's not any better in terms of neutrality than the Telegraph. Find a reputable source and we can talk about it. And please don't come up with the Merkur or some other yellow-press who covered that nonsense for clicks.
- Gud 2y agoSo… did you read the article? Or are you going to dismiss it because you disagree with the magazines overall politics?
- hkwerf 2y agoYou'll notice that, if you read the original messages, nowhere did they suggest anything concrete. They're just offering to investigate what would need to be done to continue operation. This is just blown out of proportion and thus far has had no relevance in the German political landscape. It's rightfully ignored.
- stby 2y agoWhile it's true that the accusations were out there, the whole thing was quickly proven wrong. The document in question is accessible [0] (in German, and even hosted at the website of Cicero, which invented the story) and clearly comes to the conclusion that nuclear reactors in Germany should not continue to run. It's even written in bold letters. [0] https://assets.cicero.de/2024-04/2022-03-03_Atomaufsicht_Version2.pdf https://assets.cicero.de/2024-04/2022-03-03_Atomaufsicht_Ver...
- vaylian 2y agoplus, Russia was a large supplier of uranium https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-just-cant-quit-russia-for-nuclear-power/ https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-just-cant-quit-russia...
- Kuinox 2y agoRussia is part of the uranium supply chain (not the source of the raw material), because the greens closed off the research&plants in EU. A well known example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superph%C3%A9nix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superph%C3%A9nix UK stepped up and started to invest in the supply chain and replace Russia one day.
- Maakuth 2y agoNuclear operators try to minimize losses of the shutdown by not replacing parts that are still workable until the shutdown. When you know of the impending shutdown, you can plan for the plant to be as EOL as possible. If you plan for long term use, parts are replaced gradually so that there's no big revamp pending.
- hkwerf 2y agoThere are no new coal plants, instead coal plants are scheduled for shutdown or conversion. New gas plants are required to make use of gas as a storage medium one way or another.
- Kuinox 2y ago5 days ago: https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-germany-turns-to-coal-power-to-keep-the-lights-on-3049252/ https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-g... > Late last month, Germany’s energy regulator said the country needs more coal power. If you want a less biased source, here is bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-30/germany-set-to-pay-more-coal-plants-to-prevent-blackouts https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-30/germany-s... > Reserve plant capacity needs to double by 2026, regulator says > Power stations on standby are mostly coal-, gas-fired plants
- hkwerf 2y ago> 5 days ago: https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-g https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-g... This article is riddled with statements that are factually incorrect. :( I guess this is hard to research if you don't speak German, though. > If you want a less biased source, here is bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-30/germany-s https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-30/germany-s... Can't read this, it's behind a paywall. > Reserve plant capacity needs to double by 2026, regulator says That does not imply more plants if you're in a phase where you take plants out of continuous operation. It's just that existing plants must be kept in reserve and can't be completely disconnected.
- kgabis 2y agoDatteln 4 is not new?
- hkwerf 2y agoPlanned in 2007, entered operation in 2020? Yes, given the changes in the last four years, it is not new!