> Workers need to get to work, and there are tradeoffs. I think the GP's point was that there _are_ tradeoffs, _and_ that we as a society ignore and avoid actu

> Workers need to get to work, and there are tradeoffs. I think the GP's point was that there _are_ tradeoffs, _and_ that we as a society ignore and avoid actually measuring and confronting the actual harms this way of life brings (possibly because they are actually standing and overwhelming to face; possibly because the problems seem depressingly intractable; possibly because of the effects of propaganda imposed on us our whole lives by big oil and the auto industry).