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> search results based on real things. The Internet in 2024 is full of not-real things and the effects of financialization. This is the underlying problem, not

> search results based on real things. The Internet in 2024 is full of not-real things and the effects of financialization. This is the underlying problem, not that Google Search is inept.

Arnt 2y ago
This! Google is the messenger, and blaming the messenger is fine if you want to blame someone but poor if you want a solution.
- downWidOutaFite 2y ago
  But Google has shaped the internet to be the way it is. At some point over the last 10 years they gave up on fighting inorganic seo spam sites and decided to join in and profit off of it.
- mococa 2y ago
  A messenger who sells your data.
  - Arnt 2y ago
    Often asserted by people who sound very confident. I have a Gmail account that I use only for purchases. A majority of the mail there is about me spending money. A highly valuable consumer, you'd think? A far as I can tell, nothing about that account has been passed to any third party, for money or for free.
    - hehdhdjehehegwv 2y ago
      RTFM. https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/6379332?hl=en https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/6379332?hl=en
      - Shish2k 2y ago
        I’ve read that page, and I see the part where a third-party will upload their own data to google so that google can target ads more precisely; but I missed the part where a third-party gets access to a user’s data
    - rchaud 2y ago
      > A far as I can tell The operative words.
      - Arnt 2y ago
        Well.. it's possible that someone paid good money to learn about that account and then did not try to sell me anything. Do you think that's likely?
        rchaud 2y ago
        It's not 2004, Google has more ways beyond just Gmail to hoover up behavioral data to feed its ad platform. There's Android OS, Chrome, Maps, Youtube and Google Analytics. You live in a panopticon, you just don't know it.
        Arnt 2y ago
        Sure Google advertises. What about that? GP didn't write "advertises" but rather "sells your data".
dingaling 2y ago
Then AI should be directed towards sifting real from unreal.
- Ferret7446 2y ago
  That... is exactly what Google is doing with AI. Or trying to do anyway.

> search results based on real things. The Internet in 2024 is full of not-real things and the effects of financialization. This is the underlying problem, not that Google Search is inept.

Arnt 2y ago

This! Google is the messenger, and blaming the messenger is fine if you want to blame someone but poor if you want a solution.

downWidOutaFite 2y ago
But Google has shaped the internet to be the way it is. At some point over the last 10 years they gave up on fighting inorganic seo spam sites and decided to join in and profit off of it.
mococa 2y ago
A messenger who sells your data.
- Arnt 2y ago
  Often asserted by people who sound very confident. I have a Gmail account that I use only for purchases. A majority of the mail there is about me spending money. A highly valuable consumer, you'd think? A far as I can tell, nothing about that account has been passed to any third party, for money or for free.
  - hehdhdjehehegwv 2y ago
    RTFM. https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/6379332?hl=en https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/6379332?hl=en
    - Shish2k 2y ago
      I’ve read that page, and I see the part where a third-party will upload their own data to google so that google can target ads more precisely; but I missed the part where a third-party gets access to a user’s data
  - rchaud 2y ago
    > A far as I can tell The operative words.
    - Arnt 2y ago
      Well.. it's possible that someone paid good money to learn about that account and then did not try to sell me anything. Do you think that's likely?
      - rchaud 2y ago
        It's not 2004, Google has more ways beyond just Gmail to hoover up behavioral data to feed its ad platform. There's Android OS, Chrome, Maps, Youtube and Google Analytics. You live in a panopticon, you just don't know it.
        Arnt 2y ago
        Sure Google advertises. What about that? GP didn't write "advertises" but rather "sells your data".

dingaling 2y ago

Then AI should be directed towards sifting real from unreal.

Ferret7446 2y ago
That... is exactly what Google is doing with AI. Or trying to do anyway.