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I think the difference in demo style between OpenAI’s GPT-4o (yesterday) and this is interesting. Google’s videos feel more like a mixture of brand marketing an

by npilk 2y ago

I think the difference in demo style between OpenAI’s GPT-4o (yesterday) and this is interesting. Google’s videos feel more like a mixture of brand marketing and pandering to shareholders. OpenAI’s videos yesterday felt much more like a casual tech demo among colleagues. Hard to explain the exact differences that make me feel that way.

sunaookami 2y ago
Maybe because OpenAI's demos were actually done live
- 317070 2y ago
  This other video seems to have been done live: https://twitter.com/GoogleDeepMind/status/1790463259822420239 https://twitter.com/GoogleDeepMind/status/179046325982242023...
  - Alifatisk 2y ago
    I’d prefer these kinds of demos instead of Googles sterile marketing videos showcasing the product
  - sunaookami 2y ago
    This is good, why haven't they shown something like this? I/O was a snooze fest
avnfish 2y ago
One company is led by engineers, the other is led by MBAs
- camel_Snake 2y ago
  Do people consider Altman an engineer?
  - infecto 2y ago
    If you reread it was plural. Indicating it was not ceo vs ceo but rather employees vs employees.
  - crakenzak 2y ago
    Greg Brockman et al.
swyx 2y ago
the astra video is exactly in the style of existing google ads. disembodied voice, POV camera. so we're desensitized to them. in contrast the openai videos all had engineers front and center, excited to show off their work. not hard to explain... im sure theres more elements but this has to be the first principal component
- deanCommie 2y ago
  It was also, on the theme that you mentioned, incredibly, unnecessarily horny. And Sama leaned into that, tweeting "her" yesterday -> https://twitter.com/sama/status/1790075827666796666 https://twitter.com/sama/status/1790075827666796666 I'm not trying to cancel anyone, it wasn't malicious, and it wasn't offensive. But it's definitely something, and not everyone's chill about it. But it's not a problem because Google doesn't compete with OpenAI (IMO). Google competes with Microsoft which will add all the necessary polish to de-hornify the OpenAI stuff for the corporate customers. Meanwhile the core OpenAI tech ultimately demos better and offers it's value proposition to a legion of startups better than Google. In summary, if you're an engineer of building on top of a model, OpenAI seems better. And if you're a CTO/CIO trying to pick a horse to sign an enterprise contract with, Google seems better.
  - amenhotep 2y ago
    "incredibly"??? You have very different standards for horniness than I do.

by npilk 2y ago

sunaookami 2y ago

Maybe because OpenAI's demos were actually done live

317070 2y ago
This other video seems to have been done live: https://twitter.com/GoogleDeepMind/status/1790463259822420239 https://twitter.com/GoogleDeepMind/status/179046325982242023...
- Alifatisk 2y ago
  I’d prefer these kinds of demos instead of Googles sterile marketing videos showcasing the product
- sunaookami 2y ago
  This is good, why haven't they shown something like this? I/O was a snooze fest

avnfish 2y ago

One company is led by engineers, the other is led by MBAs

camel_Snake 2y ago
Do people consider Altman an engineer?
- infecto 2y ago
  If you reread it was plural. Indicating it was not ceo vs ceo but rather employees vs employees.
- crakenzak 2y ago
  Greg Brockman et al.

swyx 2y ago

the astra video is exactly in the style of existing google ads. disembodied voice, POV camera. so we're desensitized to them. in contrast the openai videos all had engineers front and center, excited to show off their work. not hard to explain... im sure theres more elements but this has to be the first principal component

deanCommie 2y ago
It was also, on the theme that you mentioned, incredibly, unnecessarily horny. And Sama leaned into that, tweeting "her" yesterday -> https://twitter.com/sama/status/1790075827666796666 https://twitter.com/sama/status/1790075827666796666 I'm not trying to cancel anyone, it wasn't malicious, and it wasn't offensive. But it's definitely something, and not everyone's chill about it. But it's not a problem because Google doesn't compete with OpenAI (IMO). Google competes with Microsoft which will add all the necessary polish to de-hornify the OpenAI stuff for the corporate customers. Meanwhile the core OpenAI tech ultimately demos better and offers it's value proposition to a legion of startups better than Google. In summary, if you're an engineer of building on top of a model, OpenAI seems better. And if you're a CTO/CIO trying to pick a horse to sign an enterprise contract with, Google seems better.
- amenhotep 2y ago
  "incredibly"??? You have very different standards for horniness than I do.