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Here's the amplification of the noise over signal we expected from AI. Scams, spam... all expected. It makes you wonder if there's not more at work like active

Here's the amplification of the noise over signal we expected from AI. Scams, spam... all expected. It makes you wonder if there's not more at work like active sabotage. There will come a point where no one is able to believe anything. When that happens, consensus reality goes out the window. Massive social upheaval follows. We know Tik Tok was used specifically for these effects. Where is all this "content" coming from? Does Meta (for example) even know? Is it all from a handful of accounts?

pc86 2y ago
> We know Tik Tok was used specifically for these effects. I know no such thing, and this is the first I'm hearing of anyone saying it's used for social upheaval, denial of consensus reality, or sabotage.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  Poe's Law? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-spy-chief-cannot-rule-162722979.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-spy-chief-cannot-rule-1627... > Lawmakers have long voiced concerns that the Chinese government could access user data or influence what people see on the app, including pushing content to stoke U.S. political divisions. https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1247347363/china-tiktok-national-security https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1247347363/china-tiktok-natio... > National security is at the heart of bipartisan concerns in Washington motivating the law. Lawmakers say they're worried the Chinese government could lean on ByteDance in order to use TikTok to suck up Americans' data, surveil them, and spread false and misleading claims to U.S. voters.
  - TremendousJudge 2y ago
    yeah, only American companies should be allowed to do that!
    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      I mean, China's way ahead on this one. https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-bytedance-ban-china-india-376f32d78861e14e65ec4bc78e808a0d https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-bytedance-ban-china-india-... > TikTok has never been available in mainland China, a fact that CEO Shou Chew has mentioned in testimony to U.S. lawmakers. ByteDance instead offers Chinese users Douyin, a similar video-sharing app that follows Beijing’s strict censorship rules. TikTok also ceased operations in Hong Kong after a sweeping Chinese national security law took effect.
jsheard 2y ago
The way AI is being positioned as a cure for the problems that AI caused (or at least massively exacerbated) in particular makes it feel like a racket. Google is becoming unusable due to LLM-driven content farms? Try our new LLM-powered search engine instead! It may not work very well but we've made sure to completely destroy the traditional way of finding information online so you don't have much of a choice.

pc86 2y ago

> We know Tik Tok was used specifically for these effects. I know no such thing, and this is the first I'm hearing of anyone saying it's used for social upheaval, denial of consensus reality, or sabotage.

ceejayoz 2y ago
Poe's Law? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-spy-chief-cannot-rule-162722979.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-spy-chief-cannot-rule-1627... > Lawmakers have long voiced concerns that the Chinese government could access user data or influence what people see on the app, including pushing content to stoke U.S. political divisions. https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1247347363/china-tiktok-national-security https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1247347363/china-tiktok-natio... > National security is at the heart of bipartisan concerns in Washington motivating the law. Lawmakers say they're worried the Chinese government could lean on ByteDance in order to use TikTok to suck up Americans' data, surveil them, and spread false and misleading claims to U.S. voters.
- TremendousJudge 2y ago
  yeah, only American companies should be allowed to do that!
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    I mean, China's way ahead on this one. https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-bytedance-ban-china-india-376f32d78861e14e65ec4bc78e808a0d https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-bytedance-ban-china-india-... > TikTok has never been available in mainland China, a fact that CEO Shou Chew has mentioned in testimony to U.S. lawmakers. ByteDance instead offers Chinese users Douyin, a similar video-sharing app that follows Beijing’s strict censorship rules. TikTok also ceased operations in Hong Kong after a sweeping Chinese national security law took effect.

jsheard 2y ago

The way AI is being positioned as a cure for the problems that AI caused (or at least massively exacerbated) in particular makes it feel like a racket. Google is becoming unusable due to LLM-driven content farms? Try our new LLM-powered search engine instead! It may not work very well but we've made sure to completely destroy the traditional way of finding information online so you don't have much of a choice.