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A movie about an architect redesigning a city. The city it basically new york, which the director believes is the center of the world. The love interest is the

A movie about an architect redesigning a city. The city it basically new york, which the director believes is the center of the world. The love interest is the mayor's daughter. Financed with proceeds from the sale of the director's winery. This isn't the mud and rain of movies like Apocalypse Now. This reeks of the money and elitisms of Battlefield Earth or Batman Forever.

throw0101d 2y ago
> A movie about an architect redesigning a city. It's a movie about the Catilinarian conspiracy: > An accident destroys a decaying New York City-like metropolis. Cesar Catilina, an idealist architect with the power to control time, aims to rebuild the city as a sustainable utopia, but is opposed by corrupt mayor Franklyn Cicero, who remains committed to a regressive status quo. Torn between them is Franklyn's socialite daughter, Julia, who, tired of the influence she inherited, searches for her life's meaning.[4][5][6] * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalopolis_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalopolis_(film) > The Catilinarian conspiracy, sometimes Second Catilinarian conspiracy, was an attempted coup d'état by Lucius Sergius Catilina (Catiline) to overthrow the Roman consuls of 63 BC – Marcus Tullius Cicero and Gaius Antonius Hybrida – and forcibly assume control of the state in their stead. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catilinarian_conspiracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catilinarian_conspiracy
- Cheer2171 2y ago
  I sincerely can't tell if you mentioned this to rebut or reinforce the elitism critique. I see an obscure Roman Empire historical allegory about a master builder elite fighting old power elite. Character development about elite daughter's ennui for her inherited wealth and influence. I see why HN types might love it, but HN types are literally the elite in our society too.
  - more_corn 2y ago
    Oh snap. You made my oatmeal and coffee taste like a million bucks. Thanks. I’m going to be strutting around in my elite pants all day.
    - Cheer2171 2y ago
      You asked HN for a payments provider / accounting platform. You're in the global top 1%.
  - throw0101d 2y ago
    > I see why HN types might love it, but HN types are literally the elite in our society too. Given it's about the Roman Empire/Republic… "How often do men think about ancient Rome? Quite frequently, it seems.": * https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/09/14/roman-empire-trend-men-tiktok/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/09/14/roman-em... * https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-roman-empire-tiktok-trend-why-are-people-asking-men-how-often-think/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-roman-empire-tiktok-trend-w... :) Besides, it stars Kylo Ren.
- sandworm101 2y ago
  Movies are not their scripts or their directors. Movies are products of a complex situation, a confluence of influences. Those influences bleed into the film. A movie about soldiers filmed in a rain-soaked jungle will itself drip with the suffering that went in its creation. A movie filmed about a new york architect, filmed in a New York nightclub, with a cast of Hollywood socialites ... that's how you get Batman Forever. I doubt this movie will ring true with the bulk of audiences.
  - Maxatar 2y ago
    >I doubt this movie will ring true with the bulk of audiences. This should be the least important quality of a film, and ironic that you mention this quality along with Batman Forever, which did ring true with the bulk of audiences and was Warner Bros. most successful film for six years until Harry Potter was released.
llamaimperative 2y ago
> A movie about an architect redesigning a city. This seems like a wild understatement, based on the trailer.
- sandworm101 2y ago
  Well sure, clearly this isn't a movie about the intricacies of architectural design, but the selection of that job descriptor for the main character is very telling. Architects are imagination people who see a better world. They design the building, they don't put it up themselves. They are ambitious leaders trying to realize their own visions. They are also not rich enough to do it on their own, else they would be called something else a la Tony Stark. So they must struggle to acquire money/power from someone else. Enter the love interest, the daughter of the mayor. The mayor is the old power structure, the architect the new young guy with vision. And the daughter joins those two world. This is not an ambitious premise for a movie. I'm sure it will have excellent cinematography.
boringg 2y ago
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scop 2y ago
> This isn't the mud and rain of movies like Apocalypse Now. This reeks of the money and elitisms of Battlefield Earth or Batman Forever. This is bloody brilliant and ranks among the best HN comments I’ve ever encountered. It’s pure poetry and ends with the words “Batman Forever”, a staggering creative achievement.
- ethbr1 2y ago
  I dunno, referencing Roger Christian and Joel Schumacher in relation to Francis Ford Coppola makes me question someone's film bona fides.
maxsilver 2y ago
> The city it basically new york, which the director believes is the center of the world. To be fair, this seems like a commonly shared belief among many real-world New York City residents as well.
- sandworm101 2y ago
  It is also a hollywood trope. Sometimes it gets a rebrand (Gothem, Metropolis) but New York is often the stand-in city to represent the rest of the planet in the big battle (Ghostbusters).
- exhilaration 2y ago
  For those that haven't seen it, there's a a great New Yorker cover called "View of the World from 9th Avenue" that pokes fun at this. Here's a close-up of the image: https://saulsteinbergfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/357.jpg https://saulsteinbergfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/... And an article about it: https://saulsteinbergfoundation.org/essay/view-of-the-world-from-9th-avenue/ https://saulsteinbergfoundation.org/essay/view-of-the-world-...
  - euroderf 2y ago
    And there's been many takes on it I think. I recall seeing one for L.A., back in 1980ish.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  Probably due to its outlandish economic power and cultural projection all over the world, i.e. because it is "the center of the world" insofar as the phrase means anything when applied to a city. (Yes I am an NYC resident, but it's not my perception of the city that makes it what it is on the international stage)
cholantesh 2y ago
So will either be inadvertently hilarious or high camp? I wasn't going to watch Megalopolis, but now I'm really looking forward to it!
lamp_book 2y ago
I don’t know, Coppola selling his winery to finance the movie sounds reminiscent to the Apocalypse Now production to me [1]. [1] https://youtu.be/pFYzVsrrPjE?feature=shared https://youtu.be/pFYzVsrrPjE?feature=shared

throw0101d 2y ago

> A movie about an architect redesigning a city. It's a movie about the Catilinarian conspiracy: > An accident destroys a decaying New York City-like metropolis. Cesar Catilina, an idealist architect with the power to control time, aims to rebuild the city as a sustainable utopia, but is opposed by corrupt mayor Franklyn Cicero, who remains committed to a regressive status quo. Torn between them is Franklyn's socialite daughter, Julia, who, tired of the influence she inherited, searches for her life's meaning.[4][5][6] * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalopolis_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalopolis_(film) > The Catilinarian conspiracy, sometimes Second Catilinarian conspiracy, was an attempted coup d'état by Lucius Sergius Catilina (Catiline) to overthrow the Roman consuls of 63 BC – Marcus Tullius Cicero and Gaius Antonius Hybrida – and forcibly assume control of the state in their stead. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catilinarian_conspiracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catilinarian_conspiracy

Cheer2171 2y ago
I sincerely can't tell if you mentioned this to rebut or reinforce the elitism critique. I see an obscure Roman Empire historical allegory about a master builder elite fighting old power elite. Character development about elite daughter's ennui for her inherited wealth and influence. I see why HN types might love it, but HN types are literally the elite in our society too.
- more_corn 2y ago
  Oh snap. You made my oatmeal and coffee taste like a million bucks. Thanks. I’m going to be strutting around in my elite pants all day.
  - Cheer2171 2y ago
    You asked HN for a payments provider / accounting platform. You're in the global top 1%.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  > I see why HN types might love it, but HN types are literally the elite in our society too. Given it's about the Roman Empire/Republic… "How often do men think about ancient Rome? Quite frequently, it seems.": * https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/09/14/roman-empire-trend-men-tiktok/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/09/14/roman-em... * https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-roman-empire-tiktok-trend-why-are-people-asking-men-how-often-think/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-roman-empire-tiktok-trend-w... :) Besides, it stars Kylo Ren.
sandworm101 2y ago
Movies are not their scripts or their directors. Movies are products of a complex situation, a confluence of influences. Those influences bleed into the film. A movie about soldiers filmed in a rain-soaked jungle will itself drip with the suffering that went in its creation. A movie filmed about a new york architect, filmed in a New York nightclub, with a cast of Hollywood socialites ... that's how you get Batman Forever. I doubt this movie will ring true with the bulk of audiences.
- Maxatar 2y ago
  >I doubt this movie will ring true with the bulk of audiences. This should be the least important quality of a film, and ironic that you mention this quality along with Batman Forever, which did ring true with the bulk of audiences and was Warner Bros. most successful film for six years until Harry Potter was released.

llamaimperative 2y ago

> A movie about an architect redesigning a city. This seems like a wild understatement, based on the trailer.

sandworm101 2y ago
Well sure, clearly this isn't a movie about the intricacies of architectural design, but the selection of that job descriptor for the main character is very telling. Architects are imagination people who see a better world. They design the building, they don't put it up themselves. They are ambitious leaders trying to realize their own visions. They are also not rich enough to do it on their own, else they would be called something else a la Tony Stark. So they must struggle to acquire money/power from someone else. Enter the love interest, the daughter of the mayor. The mayor is the old power structure, the architect the new young guy with vision. And the daughter joins those two world. This is not an ambitious premise for a movie. I'm sure it will have excellent cinematography.

boringg 2y ago

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scop 2y ago

> This isn't the mud and rain of movies like Apocalypse Now. This reeks of the money and elitisms of Battlefield Earth or Batman Forever. This is bloody brilliant and ranks among the best HN comments I’ve ever encountered. It’s pure poetry and ends with the words “Batman Forever”, a staggering creative achievement.

ethbr1 2y ago
I dunno, referencing Roger Christian and Joel Schumacher in relation to Francis Ford Coppola makes me question someone's film bona fides.

maxsilver 2y ago

> The city it basically new york, which the director believes is the center of the world. To be fair, this seems like a commonly shared belief among many real-world New York City residents as well.

sandworm101 2y ago
It is also a hollywood trope. Sometimes it gets a rebrand (Gothem, Metropolis) but New York is often the stand-in city to represent the rest of the planet in the big battle (Ghostbusters).
exhilaration 2y ago
For those that haven't seen it, there's a a great New Yorker cover called "View of the World from 9th Avenue" that pokes fun at this. Here's a close-up of the image: https://saulsteinbergfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/357.jpg https://saulsteinbergfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/... And an article about it: https://saulsteinbergfoundation.org/essay/view-of-the-world-from-9th-avenue/ https://saulsteinbergfoundation.org/essay/view-of-the-world-...
- euroderf 2y ago
  And there's been many takes on it I think. I recall seeing one for L.A., back in 1980ish.
llamaimperative 2y ago
Probably due to its outlandish economic power and cultural projection all over the world, i.e. because it is "the center of the world" insofar as the phrase means anything when applied to a city. (Yes I am an NYC resident, but it's not my perception of the city that makes it what it is on the international stage)

cholantesh 2y ago

So will either be inadvertently hilarious or high camp? I wasn't going to watch Megalopolis, but now I'm really looking forward to it!

lamp_book 2y ago

I don’t know, Coppola selling his winery to finance the movie sounds reminiscent to the Apocalypse Now production to me [1]. [1] https://youtu.be/pFYzVsrrPjE?feature=shared https://youtu.be/pFYzVsrrPjE?feature=shared