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Fire your bank if they don't respect your boundaries.

cess11 2y ago
Where I live the largest consumer banks have a state sanctioned cartel regarding electronic identification. They'll never support Linux, and I won't support anything else on my personal computers, which means I have to use regular Android on my phone so I can use their 'app'.
rob74 2y ago
...and ask your employer to pay out your salary in cash? Doesn't sound very realistic unfortunately. I don't think it's only about banking apps needing the Google services, it might actually be that they refuse to run on rooted phones? If there are any banking apps that run on LineageOS, kudos to them - if they are available in Germany, tell me so I can switch...
- medo-bear 2y ago
  Just curious, why do you need a banking app on your phone?
  - cess11 2y ago
    I need the bank's eID-application to authenticate against pretty much all of the public sector, and when I buy tobacco online. The banks were many years ago allowed to develop an electronic identification system and they now totally dominate in this space, and that's what the public sector generally supports. It's the 'worse than Soviet' kind of nasty that tend to emerge from liberalist oligarchies.
    - jksflkjl3jk3 2y ago
      What country is that? Sounds horrible.
      - cess11 2y ago
        Sweden. We have 'owner families' dominating our economy and politics, and things have been rotting fast over the past thirty years or so. I'm unlikely to relocate though, at least not until the NATO membership pulls us into open conflict. It's a decent place to run a company though.
        medo-bear 2y ago
        As a fellow person dreading conscription into someone else's conflict, it might be too late by then
        cess11 2y ago
        Yeah. I've been drafting and revising relocation plans for years, so if it seems to heat up or kids might be conscripted we'd probably manage to leave in an orderly manner within a couple of months. I'm probably too old to get conscripted even if I were to botch my predictions, I'm old enough to have done both obligatory service and a couple of military employments and been placed in and culled from the 'war placement' registry.
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    - medo-bear 2y ago
      Seems like a situation that necessitates having 2 phones. Wouldn't surprise me if this soon becomes illegal
  - rob74 2y ago
    You don't need the banking app for actual banking, but you need it for 2FA if you want to use the bank website on your PC. Some banks also offer an additional "authentication device", which would be an alternative for LineageOS users, but that's an additional device that you have to take care of, carry around etc., so much less convenient than using the app...
    - medo-bear 2y ago
      my mobile banking app is only good for looking up the balance, which i really dont need to do that often. for anything more complicated using the phone is just irritating and i more frequently turn to my desktop or laptop. moreover if banking is so significant to you, and you hold alot of funds, perhaps you should really then think about having a secure isolated banking device.

Where I live the largest consumer banks have a state sanctioned cartel regarding electronic identification. They'll never support Linux, and I won't support anything else on my personal computers, which means I have to use regular Android on my phone so I can use their 'app'.

rob74 2y ago

...and ask your employer to pay out your salary in cash? Doesn't sound very realistic unfortunately. I don't think it's only about banking apps needing the Google services, it might actually be that they refuse to run on rooted phones? If there are any banking apps that run on LineageOS, kudos to them - if they are available in Germany, tell me so I can switch...

medo-bear 2y ago
Just curious, why do you need a banking app on your phone?
- cess11 2y ago
  I need the bank's eID-application to authenticate against pretty much all of the public sector, and when I buy tobacco online. The banks were many years ago allowed to develop an electronic identification system and they now totally dominate in this space, and that's what the public sector generally supports. It's the 'worse than Soviet' kind of nasty that tend to emerge from liberalist oligarchies.
  - jksflkjl3jk3 2y ago
    What country is that? Sounds horrible.
    - cess11 2y ago
      Sweden. We have 'owner families' dominating our economy and politics, and things have been rotting fast over the past thirty years or so. I'm unlikely to relocate though, at least not until the NATO membership pulls us into open conflict. It's a decent place to run a company though.
      - medo-bear 2y ago
        As a fellow person dreading conscription into someone else's conflict, it might be too late by then
        cess11 2y ago
        Yeah. I've been drafting and revising relocation plans for years, so if it seems to heat up or kids might be conscripted we'd probably manage to leave in an orderly manner within a couple of months. I'm probably too old to get conscripted even if I were to botch my predictions, I'm old enough to have done both obligatory service and a couple of military employments and been placed in and culled from the 'war placement' registry.
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  - medo-bear 2y ago
    Seems like a situation that necessitates having 2 phones. Wouldn't surprise me if this soon becomes illegal
- rob74 2y ago
  You don't need the banking app for actual banking, but you need it for 2FA if you want to use the bank website on your PC. Some banks also offer an additional "authentication device", which would be an alternative for LineageOS users, but that's an additional device that you have to take care of, carry around etc., so much less convenient than using the app...
  - medo-bear 2y ago
    my mobile banking app is only good for looking up the balance, which i really dont need to do that often. for anything more complicated using the phone is just irritating and i more frequently turn to my desktop or laptop. moreover if banking is so significant to you, and you hold alot of funds, perhaps you should really then think about having a secure isolated banking device.