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They banned my account a few weeks back because I asked it to translate some Japanese text that was on a kitchen knife. Still no response from their Trust & Sa
by gorbypark 2y ago
They banned my account a few weeks back because I asked it to translate some Japanese text that was on a kitchen knife. Still no response from their Trust & Safety team. It's frustrating because Claude is really quite good at coding and I used it frequently.
- SturgeonsLaw 2y agoTrust and safety folks are the biggest bunch of weenies around. Yeah I said it.
- benreesman 2y agoI’m not sure I’d put it like that (again anyways, I had a bad time when I did), but it is a really important point: when did these folks start legislating from Atherton or whatever (Le Defense)? Doing harmful shit via computers is already really friggin illegal, and if we need even more draconian computer crime laws? I say they get passed by like, a legislature or something. Fuck private individuals and/or corporations arrogating regulatory power to themselves. Yeah, I said it.
- Shish2k 2y ago> when did these folks start legislating Just making sure I’m understanding the situation correctly - these folks have gone beyond “controlling the output of their own APIs”, and they are now using government power to limit what you can do with your own software running on your own hardware??
- benreesman 2y agoYeah, there are both executive orders and legislation under consideration limiting available weight models: Mistral did their last big release as a magnet link on X. Throw in the changes around the T2 HSM, the creepy semi-visible quarantine permissions, and OpenPhilanthropy lobbying to the tune of like, 100+ million a year. Yeah, you are in grave jeopardy of not being able to easily, legally access available-weight, operator-aligned models.
- op00to 2y agoYou don’t have a right to make other peoples computers do stuff they don’t want their computers to do.
- benreesman 2y agoI agree.
- gwervc 2y agoThat's saying a lot given the other contenders are DEI folx.
- benreesman 2y agoWhen I got started in this business 20 some years ago it was wildly diverse: you’d have like a biker-gang looking guy with hard right politics getting yelled at by a chick with bright pink hair, but it would be about bash or perl or something. Never about stupid political posturing. We’ve managed to destroy the one profession with serious vertical class mobility where no one gave a fuck about your race or age or sexual orientation or politics or anything but can this person code, do they geek out. The one thing we didn’t used to tolerate and now do is flagrant nepotism. Which seems like a step backwards on any of diversity, equity, or inclusion.
- margorczynski 2y agoWell as people started seeing (big) money in the area more and more "business people" started to inject themselves into the structures and now it is full of MBAs and all sorts of grifters.
- benreesman 2y agoI know, I was there. Glass half full? Never been easier to take on a trillion dollar company run by non-technical people.
- auger_m 2y ago> no one gave a fuck about your race or age or sexual orientation or politics or anything but can this person code, do they geek out Is this really true though? There is so much evidence that shows women and other minority groups to be systematically discriminated against in tech.
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- sa-code 2y agoI mean, that's who I would hire for trust and safety.
- wouldbecouldbe 2y agoYeah but then also take it further. They originate from modern society & it's need to cater to sensitivities. And that's a sentiment that's in general pretty well supported here. It's the likes of Elon, hated here, that are the one's fighting this. LLM's censorship is a symptom of a much wider problem. For instance we see it partially causing lots of mental anxiety: the world should bent to my anxiety instead of learning to deal with stress. But also in much more difficult topics that simply can't be discussed anymore and therefore continue to fester on.
- FranzFerdiNaN 2y agoYou have to search really hard to find a bigger crybaby than Elon Musk around though. It's why he bought Twitter: to create a safe space for himself, where he can surround himself with all his favorite opinions (his own).
- wouldbecouldbe 2y agoHahah the hate runs deep
- OKRainbowKid 2y agoAnd so does blind love!
- FranzFerdiNaN 2y agohttps://www.engadget.com/x-now-treats-the-term-cisgender-as-a-slur-211117779.html https://www.engadget.com/x-now-treats-the-term-cisgender-as-... cisgender is now a slur according to Elon Musk lmao. He really is the biggest snowflake of them all.
- wouldbecouldbe 2y agoWell the biggest is exagerated, but he def. has a sensitive side :).
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- mrtksn 2y agoThe worst thing about the western style censorship is that it’s completely useless for the cause. For example, the internet is filled with blatant hate speech and racism, but because they don’t use the keywords or don’t show the designated symbols, that’s allowed. However, the speech that doesn’t have intent of harm, it’s just a joke or have incidental content with symbols or words that are considered harmful, is banned. In the last few years, it came to such a ridiculous point that The most oppressive regimes in terms of freedom of speech are those who claim to be the “free world”. They are also very unforgiving, you can’t apologize and move on. They will cut you off and never talk to you again. Even if they were right with their position, they don’t value you as a human being and if the cost to win you back is non-zero, they discard you. That’s fascism. It’s not only that the speech is oppressed. Also, the product quality is greatly degraded because of this. It’s the worst aspect of everything, in proper fascist or communist systems at least you get some benefits like clean streets or free education.
- BlueTemplar 2y agoAaand it's because of bullshit like this that platforms are evil and ought not be used...
- andybak 2y agoEvil? Clumsy, lazy and risk averse - yes. Stupid? Uncaring? Infuriating? Yes. Can we save "evil" for now deserving cases?
- BlueTemplar 2y agoPlatforms in general are evil by their nature. (Unlike protocols.) Some are less evil than others of course.
- szundi 2y agoOpen a new account then?
- Zambyte 2y agoYikes! If "safety" really means brand safety, they completely missed the mark here.
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- sinuhe69 2y agoHaha, I was also banned for no clear reason (or perhaps mocking their AI? I don’t know). But then they reset the ban after a while. But it gave me no incentive to become one of the paying customers.