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It takes me repeated taps on a text entry to get the popover that allows me to paste - why isn't there a keyboard shortcut to access the clipboard? Similarly, I

It takes me repeated taps on a text entry to get the popover that allows me to paste - why isn't there a keyboard shortcut to access the clipboard? Similarly, I often find it impossible to drag a selection to select more or less characters. Moving the cursor is similarly infuriating. On Android, I had a keyboard that allowed me to swipe on the space bar to move the cursor, why can't I have that here? Wouldn't be as big of a problem if the spellchecker was not absolute garbage and handled multi-language text input, or just worked well for a single language. Honestly, I don't think the team working on the keyboard at apple has any linguists or any kind of diversity to pay attention to nothing but the most milktoast of English language use.

zimpenfish 2y ago
> why isn't there a keyboard shortcut to access the clipboard? You can tap and hold with three fingers to bring up the clipboard bar which has icons for undo, redo, cut, copy, and paste. Assuming that's what you mean by "access the clipboard"?
- anileated 2y ago
  You don’t actually need to hold, just a three-finger tap (anywhere on screen, except keyboard itself) is enough.
  - gcanyon 2y ago
    Ooh, this is a neat trick, thanks!
    - anileated 2y ago
      Personally, I almost never use it since I often operate single-handed and it is not part of my muscle memory. Tapping the cursor then waiting a second or so for regular context menu (with lookup, translate and other options) is my preferred way.
anileated 2y ago
> It takes me repeated taps on a text entry to get the popover that allows me to paste > I often find it impossible to drag a selection to select more or less characters. Your description reminds me of how it felt after that recent OS update I mentioned, until I realized I can turn off spellchecker to restore the previous typing behaviour. Now the copy/paste popover and drag-selection work every time, but I have to really watch for typos. Like me, you were used to previous behaviour, and the new one is unfamiliar to the point of broken. I agree that Apple has royally screwed up here by making this the default behavior in iOS 17. However, it’s a bit disingenuous to say it was always broken if it only started working differently in the latest version. > why isn't there a keyboard shortcut to access the clipboard On iPad, if you bring up a large keyboard by pinch-zooming the small one, you get those buttons on screen keyboard. (On an external keyboard, the normal macOS copy-paste key combos work always.)
pcammeraat 2y ago
If you tap and hold on the spacebar it essential becomes a trackpad. That let you move the cursor in all directions.
- anileated 2y ago
  That doesn’t help with selection, does it?
  - nativeit 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - anileated 2y ago
      > Relax. Go select some text with a mouse, you’ll feel better. Do you often select text to feel better? Are you OK?
      - saagarjha 2y ago
        Look I don’t agree with your parent comment but, uh, yes I do. Do you not mindlessly select text while reading?
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  - lbebber 2y ago
    You can select text this way too; once it’s in “trackpad mode”, tap the keyboard with another finger, and it will start text selection.
    - dgellow 2y ago
      Wow, I had no idea! But the selection is not fluid at all and really difficult this way
maccard 2y ago
> It takes me repeated taps on a text entry to get the popover that allows me to paste I copy and pasted this on an iPhone - I tapped the comment box which summoned the keyboard, and I tapped again and it gave me Paste/Autofill as options. > On Android, I had a keyboard that allowed me to swipe on the space bar to move the cursor, why can't I have that here? This is out of the box functionality on iOS. I had a samsung device before, and I had no end of issues with the keyboard failing to summon, certain apps refusing to use my preferred keyboard, password managers not working properly, inconsistent selection/focus/edit dialog behaviour. I don't get _any_ of those issues with iOS.

zimpenfish 2y ago

> why isn't there a keyboard shortcut to access the clipboard? You can tap and hold with three fingers to bring up the clipboard bar which has icons for undo, redo, cut, copy, and paste. Assuming that's what you mean by "access the clipboard"?

anileated 2y ago
You don’t actually need to hold, just a three-finger tap (anywhere on screen, except keyboard itself) is enough.
- gcanyon 2y ago
  Ooh, this is a neat trick, thanks!
  - anileated 2y ago
    Personally, I almost never use it since I often operate single-handed and it is not part of my muscle memory. Tapping the cursor then waiting a second or so for regular context menu (with lookup, translate and other options) is my preferred way.

anileated 2y ago

> It takes me repeated taps on a text entry to get the popover that allows me to paste > I often find it impossible to drag a selection to select more or less characters. Your description reminds me of how it felt after that recent OS update I mentioned, until I realized I can turn off spellchecker to restore the previous typing behaviour. Now the copy/paste popover and drag-selection work every time, but I have to really watch for typos. Like me, you were used to previous behaviour, and the new one is unfamiliar to the point of broken. I agree that Apple has royally screwed up here by making this the default behavior in iOS 17. However, it’s a bit disingenuous to say it was always broken if it only started working differently in the latest version. > why isn't there a keyboard shortcut to access the clipboard On iPad, if you bring up a large keyboard by pinch-zooming the small one, you get those buttons on screen keyboard. (On an external keyboard, the normal macOS copy-paste key combos work always.)

pcammeraat 2y ago

If you tap and hold on the spacebar it essential becomes a trackpad. That let you move the cursor in all directions.

anileated 2y ago
That doesn’t help with selection, does it?
- nativeit 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - anileated 2y ago
    > Relax. Go select some text with a mouse, you’ll feel better. Do you often select text to feel better? Are you OK?
    - saagarjha 2y ago
      Look I don’t agree with your parent comment but, uh, yes I do. Do you not mindlessly select text while reading?
      - deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
- lbebber 2y ago
  You can select text this way too; once it’s in “trackpad mode”, tap the keyboard with another finger, and it will start text selection.
  - dgellow 2y ago
    Wow, I had no idea! But the selection is not fluid at all and really difficult this way

maccard 2y ago

> It takes me repeated taps on a text entry to get the popover that allows me to paste I copy and pasted this on an iPhone - I tapped the comment box which summoned the keyboard, and I tapped again and it gave me Paste/Autofill as options. > On Android, I had a keyboard that allowed me to swipe on the space bar to move the cursor, why can't I have that here? This is out of the box functionality on iOS. I had a samsung device before, and I had no end of issues with the keyboard failing to summon, certain apps refusing to use my preferred keyboard, password managers not working properly, inconsistent selection/focus/edit dialog behaviour. I don't get _any_ of those issues with iOS.