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Must be nice to be a US autoworker. Almost no US industry gets similar protections. Certainly my job isn’t protected in the same way. And yet, a base Corolla ru

by jmpman 2y ago

Must be nice to be a US autoworker. Almost no US industry gets similar protections. Certainly my job isn’t protected in the same way. And yet, a base Corolla runs more than $27k out the door, and I have no choice but to buy these over prices ICE vehicles.

throwaway5959 2y ago
Could restructure your life to not need a car. Or buy a $12000 used Nissan Leaf. Or take the bus.
- banish-m4 2y ago
  Zero buses where I live, chief.
  - throwaway5959 2y ago
    Not my problem, bro.
    - whatevaa 2y ago
      If you don't care about others, don't be surprised that others don't care about you, throwaway.
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      - banish-m4 2y ago
        Hey, I'm a throwaway too. It's just I'm too lazy to save an hn password in a password manager. Cyberdisinhibitionism is real and noxious. I guess it's the price we pay for open forums, but I do wonder what the internet would be like without pseudonyms requiring verified, real, public identification with photograph,(without the threat of government retaliation or censorship). Would "pretty" people, celebrities, the rich, and men dominate discussions?
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hughesjj 2y ago
Almost none, true, but Boeing is definitely on that small list. Oh and auto dealerships. Really the whole automotive industry given how much we spend on road infra. Also we give absurd amount of subsidies to the oil & gas industry. Oh yeah, tax preparation too. Really we could go on. Man, you never hear companies complaining about these kinds of economic regulations...
fxytrain 2y ago
We buy used recent Corollas (4-5 years) at around $25-30k in my country. If it’s cheaper than that, it’s probably a salvaged vehicle or it a stolen vehicle from Canada or something. New Corollas cost around $40-50k. The Chinese vehicles are now replacing those used cars. They cost $20-25k new and come with all the bells and whistles you wouldn’t get from Toyota. They are also assembled locally so, supports and parts are not a problem.
dividedcomet 2y ago
I purchased a hybrid Carolla for 24k 2 months ago, with features. I think you’re exaggerating a little. It came default with lane centering and Apple auto. For 24k for a car that can al slot drive itself, I felt like it was a screaming deal compared to any electric or ice car I could buy lol.
- jmpman 2y ago
  Sticker price, Corolla SE, with tax, title, and registration is around $27k. Maybe it can be negotiated down.
xenospn 2y ago
I do believe farmers (esp. cattle farmers) are almost fully subsidized by the government and can’t fail.
mrandish 2y ago
> Almost no US industry gets similar protections. While that's true, few people realize just how many US industries are protected from competition by federal and state regulation and licensure requirements. These market distortions artificially inflate prices, reduce consumer choice, prevent innovation and stall new job creation (especially entry level jobs). From needing a license to shampoo hair to 600 hours of mandated training to do hair threading: https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2022/01/17/state-sued-over-useless-onerous-licensing-requirements-for-threaders/ https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2022/01/17/state-sued-over-u...

by jmpman 2y ago

throwaway5959 2y ago

Could restructure your life to not need a car. Or buy a $12000 used Nissan Leaf. Or take the bus.

banish-m4 2y ago
Zero buses where I live, chief.
- throwaway5959 2y ago
  Not my problem, bro.
  - whatevaa 2y ago
    If you don't care about others, don't be surprised that others don't care about you, throwaway.
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    - banish-m4 2y ago
      Hey, I'm a throwaway too. It's just I'm too lazy to save an hn password in a password manager. Cyberdisinhibitionism is real and noxious. I guess it's the price we pay for open forums, but I do wonder what the internet would be like without pseudonyms requiring verified, real, public identification with photograph,(without the threat of government retaliation or censorship). Would "pretty" people, celebrities, the rich, and men dominate discussions?

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hughesjj 2y ago

Almost none, true, but Boeing is definitely on that small list. Oh and auto dealerships. Really the whole automotive industry given how much we spend on road infra. Also we give absurd amount of subsidies to the oil & gas industry. Oh yeah, tax preparation too. Really we could go on. Man, you never hear companies complaining about these kinds of economic regulations...

fxytrain 2y ago

We buy used recent Corollas (4-5 years) at around $25-30k in my country. If it’s cheaper than that, it’s probably a salvaged vehicle or it a stolen vehicle from Canada or something. New Corollas cost around $40-50k. The Chinese vehicles are now replacing those used cars. They cost $20-25k new and come with all the bells and whistles you wouldn’t get from Toyota. They are also assembled locally so, supports and parts are not a problem.

dividedcomet 2y ago

I purchased a hybrid Carolla for 24k 2 months ago, with features. I think you’re exaggerating a little. It came default with lane centering and Apple auto. For 24k for a car that can al slot drive itself, I felt like it was a screaming deal compared to any electric or ice car I could buy lol.

jmpman 2y ago
Sticker price, Corolla SE, with tax, title, and registration is around $27k. Maybe it can be negotiated down.

xenospn 2y ago

I do believe farmers (esp. cattle farmers) are almost fully subsidized by the government and can’t fail.

mrandish 2y ago

> Almost no US industry gets similar protections. While that's true, few people realize just how many US industries are protected from competition by federal and state regulation and licensure requirements. These market distortions artificially inflate prices, reduce consumer choice, prevent innovation and stall new job creation (especially entry level jobs). From needing a license to shampoo hair to 600 hours of mandated training to do hair threading: https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2022/01/17/state-sued-over-useless-onerous-licensing-requirements-for-threaders/ https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2022/01/17/state-sued-over-u...