> neither of these thinkers are radical any longer I believe the question was whether or not those thinkers were indicative of "anti-collective propaganda" or

> neither of these thinkers are radical any longer I believe the question was whether or not those thinkers were indicative of "anti-collective propaganda" or being "locked inside [...] conservative ideology". I have no interest in the degree of radicalness. I especially have no interest in thinkers who are even more politically minded than those I have already mentioned.