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That can be turned around to say that it's you that doesn't want it. Again, sales have been stagnant for a decade, so the people have indeed spoken. The iPad a

That can be turned around to say that it's you that doesn't want it. Again, sales have been stagnant for a decade, so the people have indeed spoken. The iPad already is a tablet/computer hybrid, it just so happens to be kind of bad at it, which is why articles like these keep popping up. Apple already has an OS optimized for pointer control, just allow macOS to load up with the right hardware connected. If you (or anyone else) doesn't want that experience... Don't? Nothing would be a forced change for anyone that doesn't want it.

kcplate 2y ago
Stagnant for a decade with literally 55% of the global tablet market. Seems to me that they are doing just fine.
- ProfessorLayton 2y ago
  stagnant nominally. 30B in 2012 is ~41B today. so a rather stark decline.
  - kcplate 2y ago
    Stark decline? This page doesn’t show a “stark decline”. If anything it’s showing remarkable consistency and slightly growing market share. https://www.statista.com/statistics/276635/market-share-held-by-tablet-vendors/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/276635/market-share-held...
    - ProfessorLayton 2y ago
      is the iPad going from an inflation-adjusted ~41B in 2012 to 28B today not considered a stark decline in real revenue to you?
      - kcplate 2y ago
        An Apple 2 was $1300 in 1977. An Apple MacBook Air can be bought at walmart today for sub $700. Does that mean that Apple has shown a “sharp decline” in revenue over their baseline product by nearly $5600 per machine in inflation adjusted revenue? Does inflation adjusted revenue actually matter if cost to produce is lower and their market share is stable?
        ProfessorLayton 2y ago
        Total iPad revenue is down both nominally and in real terms. Profit margins are a percent of revenue, so real revenue decline does actually matter and not something a business wants. You'd be laughed out of a boardroom if you suggested otherwise. Nobody was talking about company-wide revenue, nor cross-comparing products like a desktop to a laptop, this is a discussion on the iPad. >“sharp decline” Misquote suggest this is no longer a productive conversation.
        kcplate 2y ago
        > Misquote suggest this is no longer a productive conversation. That was a mistake, I had meant stark and u intentionally mistyped it and I had quoted it already, but I agree that the conversation is not productive. However, its unproductive not because of the misquote, but of one party’s seemingly misunderstanding or perhaps avoidance of things like cost improvement factors, new competitors entering the market, and other consumer buying behaviors that might be involved when a new type of product is released to the public in favor a single cherry picked metric.

kcplate 2y ago

Stagnant for a decade with literally 55% of the global tablet market. Seems to me that they are doing just fine.

ProfessorLayton 2y ago
stagnant nominally. 30B in 2012 is ~41B today. so a rather stark decline.
- kcplate 2y ago
  Stark decline? This page doesn’t show a “stark decline”. If anything it’s showing remarkable consistency and slightly growing market share. https://www.statista.com/statistics/276635/market-share-held-by-tablet-vendors/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/276635/market-share-held...
  - ProfessorLayton 2y ago
    is the iPad going from an inflation-adjusted ~41B in 2012 to 28B today not considered a stark decline in real revenue to you?
    - kcplate 2y ago
      An Apple 2 was $1300 in 1977. An Apple MacBook Air can be bought at walmart today for sub $700. Does that mean that Apple has shown a “sharp decline” in revenue over their baseline product by nearly $5600 per machine in inflation adjusted revenue? Does inflation adjusted revenue actually matter if cost to produce is lower and their market share is stable?
      - ProfessorLayton 2y ago
        Total iPad revenue is down both nominally and in real terms. Profit margins are a percent of revenue, so real revenue decline does actually matter and not something a business wants. You'd be laughed out of a boardroom if you suggested otherwise. Nobody was talking about company-wide revenue, nor cross-comparing products like a desktop to a laptop, this is a discussion on the iPad. >“sharp decline” Misquote suggest this is no longer a productive conversation.
        kcplate 2y ago
        > Misquote suggest this is no longer a productive conversation. That was a mistake, I had meant stark and u intentionally mistyped it and I had quoted it already, but I agree that the conversation is not productive. However, its unproductive not because of the misquote, but of one party’s seemingly misunderstanding or perhaps avoidance of things like cost improvement factors, new competitors entering the market, and other consumer buying behaviors that might be involved when a new type of product is released to the public in favor a single cherry picked metric.