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A good solution while it remains legal and backups remain unreachable authorities. Are they unreachable? How sure are you? Aren’t you just raising suspicion an

A good solution while it remains legal and backups remain unreachable authorities. Are they unreachable? How sure are you? Aren’t you just raising suspicion and acting like a criminal by walking around with wiped devices at International borders? Seems suspicious.

lolinder 2y ago
How is it suspicious? Buying a burner phone is one of the most common pieces of advice you'll see for traveling internationally [0]. This wiping strategy is just one small step from that, especially if OP doesn't have a current-year flagship smartphone. For most people border patrol is not the biggest threat they face when traveling internationally, and OP's steps are very reasonable ones to take against all manner of non-state-sanctioned thefts. [0] https://global.psu.edu/article/travel-safety-tips-know-you-go https://global.psu.edu/article/travel-safety-tips-know-you-g...
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Buying a burner phone is one of the most common pieces of advice you'll see for traveling internationally Purchasing a burner phone, as the article describes, and carrying a wiped personal device are generally seen quite differently.
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  - lolinder 2y ago
    > generally seen quite differently. Generally seen by whom? Do you have a citation for this claim? I have a very hard time imagining how one would go about telling the difference unless it's a current year flagship smartphone.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > Generally seen by whom? Do you have a citation for this claim? By border security. Citation is having worked with ITAR materials in the past, and thus having been required by law to carry clean devices. I had a letter saying my blank phone and laptop were normal. (Only had to use it once, because I was only asked to unlock once.) > hard time imagining how one would go about telling the difference unless it's a current year flagship smartphone Any expensive device that doesn't appear to have been purchased for that trip that has zero communications, contacts or other items border security might be curious about will raise eyebrows. Side note: I still recommend wiping devices and restoring on the other side. But that's quite different from this being best practice. Buying a burner phone is, though that's less and less feasible as we integrate smartphones into our lives.
      - datahack 2y ago
        I thought it was obvious that this is what I was referring to. It’s interesting that people don’t see how traveling with wiped devices sends red flags. I wipe and restore. But I have been questioned twice about whether I plan to sell the devices (they didn’t believe me in either case) and one rather unkind border professional I am pretty sure took me in for further questioning because of the blank phone.
analognoise 2y ago
People get stuff jacked at airports and traveling all the time; seems reasonable to me?

lolinder 2y ago

How is it suspicious? Buying a burner phone is one of the most common pieces of advice you'll see for traveling internationally [0]. This wiping strategy is just one small step from that, especially if OP doesn't have a current-year flagship smartphone. For most people border patrol is not the biggest threat they face when traveling internationally, and OP's steps are very reasonable ones to take against all manner of non-state-sanctioned thefts. [0] https://global.psu.edu/article/travel-safety-tips-know-you-go https://global.psu.edu/article/travel-safety-tips-know-you-g...

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Buying a burner phone is one of the most common pieces of advice you'll see for traveling internationally Purchasing a burner phone, as the article describes, and carrying a wiped personal device are generally seen quite differently.
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- lolinder 2y ago
  > generally seen quite differently. Generally seen by whom? Do you have a citation for this claim? I have a very hard time imagining how one would go about telling the difference unless it's a current year flagship smartphone.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > Generally seen by whom? Do you have a citation for this claim? By border security. Citation is having worked with ITAR materials in the past, and thus having been required by law to carry clean devices. I had a letter saying my blank phone and laptop were normal. (Only had to use it once, because I was only asked to unlock once.) > hard time imagining how one would go about telling the difference unless it's a current year flagship smartphone Any expensive device that doesn't appear to have been purchased for that trip that has zero communications, contacts or other items border security might be curious about will raise eyebrows. Side note: I still recommend wiping devices and restoring on the other side. But that's quite different from this being best practice. Buying a burner phone is, though that's less and less feasible as we integrate smartphones into our lives.
    - datahack 2y ago
      I thought it was obvious that this is what I was referring to. It’s interesting that people don’t see how traveling with wiped devices sends red flags. I wipe and restore. But I have been questioned twice about whether I plan to sell the devices (they didn’t believe me in either case) and one rather unkind border professional I am pretty sure took me in for further questioning because of the blank phone.

analognoise 2y ago

People get stuff jacked at airports and traveling all the time; seems reasonable to me?