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> But Apple isn't a dictator and you don't have to stay with them. Waiting for a hardware competitor that can run standard Linux. Hopefully ex-Apple Nuvia/Oryo

> But Apple isn't a dictator and you don't have to stay with them. Waiting for a hardware competitor that can run standard Linux. Hopefully ex-Apple Nuvia/Oryon delivers at Computex next week.

brokenmachine 3y ago
That could be great. Is it possible that there could be a standard linux (fanless) tablet?
- walterbell 3y ago
  That's what has been promised for 2024 Aug/Sep shipping devices, including mainline Linux support and Arm SystemReady UEFI booting of any compliant Arm distro, on laptops and/or tablets from Microsoft, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo and more. Pricing is an open question, but even if the initial devices are "premium" due to post-IPO Arm licensing tax on Qualcomm, competition between multiple PC vendors and Apple will be good for everyone In a year or two, hopefully that means Framework Arm devices with power and performance >= early Apple Silicon devices. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qualcomm-Mainline-Linux-2024 https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qualcomm-Mainline-Linux-2024
- theshrike79 3y ago
  Only when someone releases an ARM-based tablet with Linux support All of the Intel based offerings are utter crap for battery life.
pjmlp 3y ago
That will never happen, at least not at a scale that is a sustainable business, hence why after Netbooks, all OEMs went with ChromeOS and Android instead. Plenty of commercial factors that the community isn't willing to compromise on, hence we only get those products that only kind of work, for tech savy communities.
olabyne 3y ago
https://fr.starlabs.systems/pages/starlite https://fr.starlabs.systems/pages/starlite ?
- mixmastamyk 3y ago
  Still waiting to ship, six months after announcement.
alt227 3y ago
> Waiting for a hardware competitor that can run standard Linux Microsoft surface is an excellent piece of hardware that can run linux just fine
- walterbell 3y ago
  That bodes well for the forthcoming Surface based on Nuvia/Oryon/Qualcomm.

> But Apple isn't a dictator and you don't have to stay with them. Waiting for a hardware competitor that can run standard Linux. Hopefully ex-Apple Nuvia/Oryon delivers at Computex next week.

brokenmachine 3y ago

That could be great. Is it possible that there could be a standard linux (fanless) tablet?

walterbell 3y ago
That's what has been promised for 2024 Aug/Sep shipping devices, including mainline Linux support and Arm SystemReady UEFI booting of any compliant Arm distro, on laptops and/or tablets from Microsoft, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo and more. Pricing is an open question, but even if the initial devices are "premium" due to post-IPO Arm licensing tax on Qualcomm, competition between multiple PC vendors and Apple will be good for everyone In a year or two, hopefully that means Framework Arm devices with power and performance >= early Apple Silicon devices. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qualcomm-Mainline-Linux-2024 https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qualcomm-Mainline-Linux-2024
theshrike79 3y ago
Only when someone releases an ARM-based tablet with Linux support All of the Intel based offerings are utter crap for battery life.

pjmlp 3y ago

That will never happen, at least not at a scale that is a sustainable business, hence why after Netbooks, all OEMs went with ChromeOS and Android instead. Plenty of commercial factors that the community isn't willing to compromise on, hence we only get those products that only kind of work, for tech savy communities.

olabyne 3y ago

https://fr.starlabs.systems/pages/starlite https://fr.starlabs.systems/pages/starlite ?

mixmastamyk 3y ago
Still waiting to ship, six months after announcement.

alt227 3y ago

> Waiting for a hardware competitor that can run standard Linux Microsoft surface is an excellent piece of hardware that can run linux just fine

walterbell 3y ago
That bodes well for the forthcoming Surface based on Nuvia/Oryon/Qualcomm.