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Some have been working to achieve single payer healthcare but unfortunately many voters have been sold stories to vote against their own interests. We have to r
by kjkjadksj 2y ago
Some have been working to achieve single payer healthcare but unfortunately many voters have been sold stories to vote against their own interests. We have to realize we are at the point of the medical technology timeline where all the cheap lowhanging fruit have been picked, our next breakthroughs will therefore always be expensive and time consuming—short of finding something no one has seen that was already there (unlikely, considering everyone reads about the same sort of source material in a field). The best way to get these expensive treatments to more people who need them is to establish a public healthcare model that would use the national gdp to shoulder these medical costs for these rare diseases, that probably amount to a relative rounding error in the grand scheme of things.
- dmitrygr 2y ago> vote against their own interests This is factually false for anyone who has access to a lot of money. Such people have access to much better care and would likely lose it in a single payer system. See: UK, canada
- kjkjadksj 2y agoOnly if they think only their own direct personal experiences impact their bottom line, and fail to see how rising tides lift all boats (including the value of their equities)
- dmitrygr 2y agoLuckily we do not need to believe you, we have data from UK and Canada, where people routinely die waiting for care, and get told that care would not improve their QoL enough to have it done. No thanks. Why do you think people come to USA for the best care when money is no object? Because the profit motive drives the existence of said care.
- kjkjadksj 2y agoWhy do you think Americans get routine work done in Tijuana? To the point you can find billboards for these things all over san diego county?
- Slava_Propanei 2y ago[dead]
- dmitrygr 2y agoSurely you understand the difference between routine ans specialty care? Routine can be done anywhere, and people go "anywhere". Fine. Specialty is mainly best in USA [1][2][3][...many more...]. So let's not ruin it, maybe? [1] https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/oncology/worlds-top-on https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/oncology/worlds-top-on... [2] https://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/pediatric-rankings/ https://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/pediatric-rankings/... [3] https://www.magazine.medicaltourism.com/article/best-countri https://www.magazine.medicaltourism.com/article/best-countri...
- t0bia_s 2y agoThere are rumours about organ harvesting from China, driven by those "when money is no object".
- hobs 2y agoRight, and they are called the 1% for a reason, if the rich voted for the rich and the poor for the poor the overwhelming win would be for the poor. Many Americans believe they are temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
- dmitrygr 2y agoMany americans correctly believe they have access to the best care in the world[1][2][3]. At the end of the day - better bankrupt than dead. [1] https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/oncology/worlds-top-oncology-hospitals-in-2024-per-newsweek.html https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/oncology/worlds-top-on... [2] https://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/pediatric-rankings/neonatal-care https://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/pediatric-rankings/... [3] https://www.magazine.medicaltourism.com/article/best-countries-in-the-world-for-kidney-treatment https://www.magazine.medicaltourism.com/article/best-countri... And so on...
- lamontcg 2y ago> would likely lose it in a single payer system. See: UK, canada no they wouldn't, they'd still see private doctors in private hospitals, which is what rich people currently do in the uk as well. they just might get taxed more for other people's health care.
- ycombinator_acc 2y agoSo they'll have access to less money, so they won't have access to as good a care.
- endo_bunker 2y agoIf you're talking about the US, single payer healthcare would be nowhere close to a "rounding error". Medicare and Medicaid are already more than 5% of GDP.
- kjkjadksj 2y agoOnly 5% is not so bad at all honestly. Apollo program was like 5%. Especially when you consider the population eligible for medicare and medicaid is already paying the highest medical costs (the point of the system in the first place after all).
- Slava_Propanei 2y ago[dead]