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> would blow the minds I think there are two aspects to this. I think anyone who's ever been to a food market in the history of time would conceptually underst

> would blow the minds I think there are two aspects to this. I think anyone who's ever been to a food market in the history of time would conceptually understand it's possible to have a bigger market, and perhaps even a faster horse or mechanical bird to bring the items there. Commerce bringing you items from the other side of the world is millennia old. So I think it would be more of a case of "how did u mad lads actually pull this off", rather than a true mind-blown situation. True mind-blown'ness I think comes from other examples he brings up, like GPS, and making items apparently hover a hundred miles above the earth and transmit information from above there, instantly, silently and invisibly. That's supernatural stuff, and the realm of the holy or the uncanny. You can't go back very far in time without talking about that stuff getting you accused of heresy / talking to the devil.

perlgeek 2y ago
The real progress with the supermarket is the availability and ubiquity. Maybe 80% of US Americans now have access to a larger variety of fresh fruits than even most nobles had 200 years ago, and it's not even a big deal to us. Project that kind of progress another 200 years in the future... it's hard to imagine how that would even look like.
- pixl97 2y ago
  >another 200 years in the future Tea, earl grey, hot.
ertgbnm 2y ago
I think people would have a deeper appreciation for what a super market is because they could understand it since it's exactly the kind of thing they would imagine a utopia would have. Throughout most of history people have spent most of their time worrying about food. Air conditioning, satellites, and CAT scans are just too far beyond imagination that I don't think it would be fully appreciated.
- eleveriven 2y ago
  Food security remains a critical issue in certain parts of the world still I think
anal_reactor 2y ago
Yeah that's what I was thinking of when paying at the supermarket. Try explaining contactless payments to someone from 18th century.
- nobody9999 2y ago
  >Yeah that's what I was thinking of when paying at the supermarket. Try explaining contactless payments to someone from 18th century. I don't think folks, at least not the well-off, would have a hard time understanding any of the varied payment methods we use today, since they'd been doing conceptually similar stuff[0] for centuries by the mid-eighteenth century. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_letter_of_credit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_letter_of_credit
  - nobody9999 2y ago
    I imagine that live H5N1 virus will make raw milk extra tasty and, assuming you're not one of the 52% who will die from contracting the virus, Bob's your uncle, eh? Come to the US and drink all the raw milk you like. Note that we don't have universal health care here, so bring lots of cash.
    - nobody9999 2y ago
      Argh! Replied in the wrong thread. Apologies for any confusion

perlgeek 2y ago

The real progress with the supermarket is the availability and ubiquity. Maybe 80% of US Americans now have access to a larger variety of fresh fruits than even most nobles had 200 years ago, and it's not even a big deal to us. Project that kind of progress another 200 years in the future... it's hard to imagine how that would even look like.

pixl97 2y ago
>another 200 years in the future Tea, earl grey, hot.

ertgbnm 2y ago

I think people would have a deeper appreciation for what a super market is because they could understand it since it's exactly the kind of thing they would imagine a utopia would have. Throughout most of history people have spent most of their time worrying about food. Air conditioning, satellites, and CAT scans are just too far beyond imagination that I don't think it would be fully appreciated.

eleveriven 2y ago
Food security remains a critical issue in certain parts of the world still I think

anal_reactor 2y ago

Yeah that's what I was thinking of when paying at the supermarket. Try explaining contactless payments to someone from 18th century.

nobody9999 2y ago
>Yeah that's what I was thinking of when paying at the supermarket. Try explaining contactless payments to someone from 18th century. I don't think folks, at least not the well-off, would have a hard time understanding any of the varied payment methods we use today, since they'd been doing conceptually similar stuff[0] for centuries by the mid-eighteenth century. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_letter_of_credit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_letter_of_credit
- nobody9999 2y ago
  I imagine that live H5N1 virus will make raw milk extra tasty and, assuming you're not one of the 52% who will die from contracting the virus, Bob's your uncle, eh? Come to the US and drink all the raw milk you like. Note that we don't have universal health care here, so bring lots of cash.
  - nobody9999 2y ago
    Argh! Replied in the wrong thread. Apologies for any confusion